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butterflyke wrote:heavy, thick, camouflage goggles  Facts, not goggles.
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Shak wrote:What do we expect from a force that's rejecting hopefuls who scored Bs preferring to go for those with Ds apparently because they won't leave for further studies? Link, today's nation Ndio hii hapa.Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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harrydre wrote:Hunderwear wrote:Much Know wrote:They did NOT steal, that video will soon be debunked, this Moha is a total FOOL to take advantage of the gullibility of the public to twist what he knows are total lie to a public who KNOW NOTHING about military operations, those guys are TRAINED to break open ATM machines, and that is information you will NEVER find anywhere in the globe, the machines also have cameras and the banks reported what happened to the public and Mpigs
“Barclays Bank has confirmed in writing that its Sh68 million is intact. DTB had Sh65 million, CFC had Sh32 million, KCB (Sh32 million) and Millionaire Casino Sh50 million. All this money was repatriated to the headquarters or other branches during the operation,”
If i gave you/a policeman an ATM machine and a whole week to open it without blowing up the money inside you would not succeed. I believe what Nation and NTV have done is criminal, this moha is a part of al-kebaab for sure. Let me repeat, this Moha is a complete IDIOT + FOOL taking advantage of the gullibility of the public which is UNFAIR Mohammed Ali is a sympathiser of Alshabaab as so is a number of Kenyan muslims.He has been tasked to discredit our Army by the Alshabaab operatives.They are in most mosques and this is in the intelligence community knowledge.What am sure is that its a matter of when and not if this will come to the fore I tend to agree. I had expected more information on those terrorists, how they were cleared, how they brought in arms (i hear they etc used a politicians chopper)etc. isn't it odd all those KDF soldiers appear to be carrying paper-bags that are of same size? So did they agree to loot an equal amt of stuff? Ni akili ndogo and most some of it has made its way in to Wazua. People who never ask questions before they comment on issues they dont know about. Moha and Co believes that when the terrorists went and turned the cameras that's when they left the mall. Does he know that as fact? Is it impossible that the imbeciles could have gone to another part of the mall? He goes on to say that the operation was almost to be completed by the Recce police but when the army came in they completely took over the mission and went ahead killing the head of Recce....because of a rivalry...surely does he have facts to support these allegations esp that there was a rivalry going on? Amazing he is praising the police that he keeps demonizing. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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tycho wrote:Now every other boy in the village is beginning to believe in this one man army story. I can't see how Kenya could have no strategic and tactical control of what was happening.
When Westgate was happening and some days after al Jazeera was saying that the al Shabaab had Kalashnikovs in there. I sniffed a rat. But when I learned how an AK behaves under heavy gunfire I, I became convinced that this whole business is stinky.
Now that we have a band of looters, and incompetent gun men as our protectors what do we do?
If this was an operation designed to shake our psychology then I fear that it was an opening for worse effects like a total negation of our basic freedoms.
We can be very easily thrown into confusion.
Now as we foam, the poison spreads. And as the body wiggles you wonder what the cassus belli is. And whether the armed forces can handle the task.
Is it only me or is this post comprehensible? 
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jaggernaut wrote:butterflyke wrote:heavy, thick, camouflage goggles Facts, not goggles. @ole jagger, i see where this thread is coming from but there is always a flipside. to some are facts to some not hence the term goggles....depends on who is looking. ask ole lenku  Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
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Government recovers fourth body at Westgate Mall believed to be that of terrorist according to CCTV footage. - KTN Kenya "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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jaggernaut wrote:The objectives of the KDF were fourfold:
1. rescue as many hostages as possible
2. neutralize the terrorists
3. secure for safe keeping and repartriate any valuables left by fleeing tenants
4. sanitize the building ie comb every nook and cranny of the building including all rooms, toilets, stores, shelves, drawers etc to remove any leftover grenades, weapons, explosives etc to ensure safety of tenants and members of the public.
The KDF did very well on all the 4 counts. I like your enthusiasm. I am happy
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jaggernaut wrote:jguru wrote:Much Know wrote:They did NOT steal, that video will soon be debunked, this Moha is a total FOOL to take advantage of the gullibility of the public to twist what he knows are total lie to a public who KNOW NOTHING about military operations, those guys are TRAINED to break open ATM machines, and that is information you will NEVER find anywhere in the globe, the machines also have cameras and the banks reported what happened to the public and Mpigs
“Barclays Bank has confirmed in writing that its Sh68 million is intact. DTB had Sh65 million, CFC had Sh32 million, KCB (Sh32 million) and Millionaire Casino Sh50 million. All this money was repatriated to the headquarters or other branches during the operation,”
If i gave you/a policeman an ATM machine and a whole week to open it without blowing up the money inside you would not succeed. I believe what Nation and NTV have done is criminal, this moha is a part of al-kebaab for sure. Let me repeat, this Moha is a complete IDIOT + FOOL taking advantage of the gullibility of the public which is UNFAIR What about the crates of beer that they drunk? Heavily armed terrorists attack Kenya's premier mall, kill over 70 innocent Kenyans including KDF soldiers and all you can think about are some fuacking 3 crates of beer? Shocking!!! You missed the point by a mile. The argument here was whether they stole (looted) or not. Argue on that. It might seem petty, fussy or picky to take that which does not belong to you, but they indeed looted and stole. The whole event was a great tragedy. That fact is undisputed. For all intents and purposes, KDF did not accomplish much whilst in that mall. Only gross misdemeanours. The 4 terrorists walked right past them. Set out to correct the world's wrongs and you will most certainly wind up adding to them.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Amores wrote:jaggernaut wrote:The objectives of the KDF were fourfold:
1. rescue as many hostages as possible
2. neutralize the terrorists
3. secure for safe keeping and repartriate any valuables left by fleeing tenants
4. sanitize the building ie comb every nook and cranny of the building including all rooms, toilets, stores, shelves, drawers etc to remove any leftover grenades, weapons, explosives etc to ensure safety of tenants and members of the public.
The KDF did very well on all the 4 counts. I like your enthusiasm. Too bad that the rogue media has poisoned the minds of the public such that the people can no longer think straight...... and interrogate the facts.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 399 Location: Where everyone knows you
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jaggernaut wrote:When the US military was in Iraq and Afghanistan, some soldiers committed horrible crimes including rape and murder of innocent civilians. Some killed British and even fellow US soldiers in friendly fire. Did this change the fact that the US military is the greatest in the world? No! Did Americans take to social media, while frothing in the mouth to lynch CiC Obama, General Patreus and his mboys like Kenyans are doing? Nope! Coz the military has mechanisms to deal with any impropriety on the battle zone. The Kenyan military also has internal mechanisms to deal with such cases. Let us not lose focus of the big picture. So let us all congraturate our mboys for a job well done. How many of you 'new found arm-chair military experts' would have had the courage to put your lives on the line and confronted those al shabab AK 47s? Am sure most of you would have fainted or $hitted in your pants. What a load of garbage. Those KDF guys are paid and "trained" to do this.This is their job. THEY FAILED. The plain clothes police, flying squad guys plus unpaid civilians like Abdul Haji and those indians were willing to go in and saved hundreds of people. The Recce squad moved in and had things under control. They would have finished the job that day.The KDF moved in when it was almost over and F^^^^D it BIG time. CCTV clips don't lie.
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