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Lolest!		#91 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:01:00 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma		murchr wrote: Where are those who were expecting sanctions? we realised that there was nothing much to get scared about the day Dr Christian Turner visited Uhuru
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Siringi		#92 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 3:02:14 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517		Muheani wrote: Its sad to have hordes of young people not engaged in gainful employment- And a Good Number Of Them Left Their Arable Farms To Their Aged Parents To Come Tarmac In The City. We Need Middle Level Technical colleges...hands On Training... Its sad that we Cannot Feed Ourselves Yet We Have Enough Land Resources To Do So. Its Sad. Driving along Langata Road, Waiyaki Way, Parts of Ngnong' Road, Nyali Bridge in Mombasa I ask myself with all these hordes of men and women trekking in the morning and evening ... how long are we going to pretend as a country that we are sitting on a time bomb! Visiting villages and hordes of idle youth lounging in the market places .. we need to think and come up with solutions PAP otherwise.. the problem is not the hotair Cordoms... Iko Chida papa hapa "😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Wakanyugi		#93 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 4:42:54 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635		Siringi wrote: Visiting villages and hordes of idle youth lounging in the market places .. we need to think and come up with solutions PAP otherwise.. the problem is not the hot air Cordoms... Iko Chida papa hapa On the other hand, if you read the DN piece today about the Mkulima Young farmers hub - about young people making real money from the land you begin to wonder. Why would one be content with a town job that pays 10,000 a month when s/he can make 10 times that from the idle land in the village? Our youth need some tough love. *"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth."* (Niels Bohr)
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wanyee		#94 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 6:12:34 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu		The best bet would be taking advantage of multiplicities within which a community in which an individual finds themselves in...for example other than just subsistence farming for a farmers own consumption food they can use bi0-waste(including human waste) to generate bio-fuel and hence bio- generated electricity for his/her own small cottage factory/work-shop use to have a small cottage industry in making say ceramics..or plastics waste recycling there-by creating alternative stream of income ..or even having a micro-brewery and a matching rural-agro tourism complete with grounds for event/seminars..(depending on their size of occupancy ..which they don't even have to actually own....they can lease) there are many options out there if the fundamentals are right..because eventually the goal would be transform to competitive trading communities at a regional/global stage ..if only the information is availed ..and it is out there..there is a nut for every squirrel ..i believe www.businessballs.com
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murchr		#95 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:55:35 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980		Wakanyugi wrote: Siringi wrote: Visiting villages and hordes of idle youth lounging in the market places .. we need to think and come up with solutions PAP otherwise.. the problem is not the hot air Cordoms... Iko Chida papa hapa On the other hand, if you read the DN piece today about the Mkulima Young farmers hub - about young people making real money from the land you begin to wonder. Why would one be content with a town job that pays 10,000 a month when s/he can make 10 times that from the idle land in the village? Our youth need some tough love. It comes easy, pay 1000/- rent, buy cheap githeri cooked on the road side, buy mitumba clothes and drink some illicit brew for 20/ and survive. These conditions will drive many to the urban areas. If 1. Renting would be higher due to taxes collected by GOK. 2.Mama githeri would pay taxes on her road side business thus driving the price of that plate up.. 3. Tax mitumba heavily and encourage local industries like rivertext, and the production of cotton/silk. 4.Be tough on illicit pombe... 5.Streamline the transport sector 6.Subsidize agriculture etc etc These young men would not see the need of flocking into towns and cities, which i think are too inviting. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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wanyee		#96 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:11:11 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu		Wakanyugi wrote: Siringi wrote: Visiting villages and hordes of idle youth lounging in the market places .. we need to think and come up with solutions PAP otherwise.. the problem is not the hot air Cordoms... Iko Chida papa hapa On the other hand, if you read the DN piece today about the Mkulima Young farmers hub - about young people making real money from the land you begin to wonder. Why would one be content with a town job that pays 10,000 a month when s/he can make 10 times that from the idle land in the village? Our youth need some tough love. Blame it on the NGO culture of Haki Yetu compounded with the 5 year- electioneering jackpot..and the 100 bob youth for hire politician ..i think poverty fighting dhould be very distant and divorced from latter element ..there is a lot of pretense that masses are engaged in productive endeavors.. i always wonder? those hawkers in the traffic jams ..how do they pay rent..school fees? ..do they have a pension plan? health insurance cover ? same for makangas..and the rest of the lot in exhibiton stalls ..what happens to the hawkers if roads become traffic free.. www.businessballs.com
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InnovateGuy		#97 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:25:17 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2012 Posts: 1,110		murchr wrote: Wakanyugi wrote: Siringi wrote: Visiting villages and hordes of idle youth lounging in the market places .. we need to think and come up with solutions PAP otherwise.. the problem is not the hot air Cordoms... Iko Chida papa hapa On the other hand, if you read the DN piece today about the Mkulima Young farmers hub - about young people making real money from the land you begin to wonder. Why would one be content with a town job that pays 10,000 a month when s/he can make 10 times that from the idle land in the village? Our youth need some tough love. It comes easy, pay 1000/- rent, buy cheap githeri cooked on the road side, buy mitumba clothes and drink some illicit brew for 20/ and survive. These conditions will drive many to the urban areas. If 1. Renting would be higher due to taxes collected by GOK. 2.Mama githeri would pay taxes on her road side business thus driving the price of that plate up.. 3. Tax mitumba heavily and encourage local industries like rivertext, and the production of cotton/silk. 4.Be tough on illicit pombe... 5.Streamline the transport sector 6.Subsidize agriculture etc etc These young men would not see the need of flocking into towns and cities, which i think are too inviting. Telling young people to go home is not a solution. What you guys seem to easily forget is that the old wazees own the land. They won't give it to the young people - unless the young man is married. When you go to the tea and coffee producing areas, the mzee owns the trees. Unless he's dead, nobody touches the trees. Live Full Die Empty - Les Brown.
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murchr		#98 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:38:20 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980		InnovateGuy wrote: murchr wrote: Wakanyugi wrote: Siringi wrote: Visiting villages and hordes of idle youth lounging in the market places .. we need to think and come up with solutions PAP otherwise.. the problem is not the hot air Cordoms... Iko Chida papa hapa On the other hand, if you read the DN piece today about the Mkulima Young farmers hub - about young people making real money from the land you begin to wonder. Why would one be content with a town job that pays 10,000 a month when s/he can make 10 times that from the idle land in the village? Our youth need some tough love. It comes easy, pay 1000/- rent, buy cheap githeri cooked on the road side, buy mitumba clothes and drink some illicit brew for 20/ and survive. These conditions will drive many to the urban areas. If 1. Renting would be higher due to taxes collected by GOK. 2.Mama githeri would pay taxes on her road side business thus driving the price of that plate up.. 3. Tax mitumba heavily and encourage local industries like rivertext, and the production of cotton/silk. 4.Be tough on illicit pombe... 5.Streamline the transport sector 6.Subsidize agriculture etc etc These young men would not see the need of flocking into towns and cities, which i think are too inviting. Telling young people to go home is not a solution. What you guys seem to easily forget is that the old wazees own the land. They won't give it to the young people - unless the young man is married. When you go to the tea and coffee producing areas, the mzee owns the trees. Unless he's dead, nobody touches the trees. Its not about owning but working on these farms. These old folks wouldn't hustle to know what other breeds of crops can do well on their farms. And what would be so wrong in working for your father anyway? I don't think any old man would have a problem if his son kept chicken, goats, cows etc. I know there's some "prestige" in being in Nairobi but ... haiko "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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wanyee		#99 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:39:35 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 7/17/2011 Posts: 627 Location: Mbui-Nzau, Kikumbulyu		InnovateGuy wrote: murchr wrote: Wakanyugi wrote: Siringi wrote: Visiting villages and hordes of idle youth lounging in the market places .. we need to think and come up with solutions PAP otherwise.. the problem is not the hot air Cordoms... Iko Chida papa hapa On the other hand, if you read the DN piece today about the Mkulima Young farmers hub - about young people making real money from the land you begin to wonder. Why would one be content with a town job that pays 10,000 a month when s/he can make 10 times that from the idle land in the village? Our youth need some tough love. It comes easy, pay 1000/- rent, buy cheap githeri cooked on the road side, buy mitumba clothes and drink some illicit brew for 20/ and survive. These conditions will drive many to the urban areas. If 1. Renting would be higher due to taxes collected by GOK. 2.Mama githeri would pay taxes on her road side business thus driving the price of that plate up.. 3. Tax mitumba heavily and encourage local industries like rivertext, and the production of cotton/silk. 4.Be tough on illicit pombe... 5.Streamline the transport sector 6.Subsidize agriculture etc etc These young men would not see the need of flocking into towns and cities, which i think are too inviting. Telling young people to go home is not a solution. What you guys seem to easily forget is that the old wazees own the land. They won't give it to the young people - unless the young man is married. When you go to the tea and coffee producing areas, the mzee owns the trees. Unless he's dead, nobody touches the trees. I see an opportunity there ..come up with a realtor business idea that addresses the above..it avails otherwise "unavailable"arable land to groups of young Kenyans en-mass for agri-commerce from any part of this region..I understand there is lots of it in Tanzania, Zambia s.sudan and Zimbabwe.. get good lawyers for leasing and what-not..there u got it client and product and may be a revenue model of shared productivity etc etc www.businessballs.com
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tycho		#100 Posted : Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:54:59 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi		It's pure hypocrisy to blame or even prescribe remedies for the 'youth'.
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