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story teller
#91 Posted : Monday, November 05, 2012 11:07:47 PM
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Joined: 6/25/2010
Posts: 415
luttz wrote:
Mkeiyd, am with you on this one; if the average schooled Kenyans with access to developments on the world stage (read Wazua) cannot understand the repercussions of voting for Uhuruto, how do we expect the rural folks to behave differently. It's a pity and we have a long way before we realize what it takes to develop a nation. Forget about sovereignty.

On the hand, PK, invested wisely after he made his initial millions by having the right network of friends at the right time.


Actually, PK is very well funded...the guy has raised over 6 billion just for his Presidential bid..don't write him off yet...he has a network of wealthy supporters...
It's not hard to make decisions when you know what your values are.
aemathenge
#92 Posted : Monday, November 05, 2012 11:29:04 PM
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Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,434
Location: Kerugoya
essyk wrote:
I have never voted in my life.
Never held a voters card.
But I will for PK,don't care if he wins or not cz I don't see anybody else worth my vote.


In order for him to be able to do what you want him to do, you will also need to vote in a Governor, a Senator, a County Representative and a Woman Representative who are sympathetic to him and his policies.

Ponder that.
simonkabz
#93 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 12:18:33 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/2/2007
Posts: 8,776
Location: Cameroon
Folks talking about
international relations lost
the plot last year - even with
so called international
relations we still have
massive youth
unemployment, mashinda
shinda...

wa p, ua post was intelligent till u came to this utter ignorance. ever heard of pariah states of iran, zimbabwe, syria, this hopeless defiance to the evil n manipulative west will cost us much. we can elect a guy who they don't hate n enjoy our hustles in peace. we r still too dependent on the west in case u didn't know. too dependent even with our perceived economic independence.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
mkeiyd
#94 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 8:37:44 AM
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Joined: 3/26/2012
Posts: 1,182
Kratos wrote:
Electing the people whom the West wants should not be a precondition to getting financial aid. We should strive to be financial free and YES WE CAN (without the mzungu).
As for Kenya ending up like Zimbabwe well, you can ask Iraq which was a darling of the Americans in the 70's how it ends.
You see its my belief that you live and let live, whoever wins fairly and squarely will be my president and there is nothing I can do to change that (something a lot of Kenyans need to learn)


@Kratos, You took the cheapest route instead of responding to my concern.

What happens after the economy crumbles? For details refer to my previous post.
How can we be self-sufficient without hard currencies,we have to import oil n machinery in a list that includes tooth picks?
What happens and why should we choose that gloomy future for ourselves?
A concrete response please.

McReggae
#95 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 8:37:58 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/17/2008
Posts: 23,365
Location: Nairobi
simonkabz wrote:
Folks talking about
international relations lost
the plot last year - even with
so called international
relations we still have
massive youth
unemployment, mashinda
shinda...

wa p, ua post was intelligent till u came to this utter ignorance. ever heard of pariah states of iran, zimbabwe, syria, this hopeless defiance to the evil n manipulative west will cost us much. we can elect a guy who they don't hate n enjoy our hustles in peace. we r still too dependent on the west in case u didn't know. too dependent even with our perceived economic independence.


Applause Applause Applause Applause very well said @thimioni!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
2012
#96 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 10:43:16 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/9/2009
Posts: 6,592
Location: Nairobi
Kratos wrote:
The mistake you're making is assuming that its my responsibility to make anyone "crossover". Sadly, its not. You see, i was just advising @ 2012 that voting is a personal decision and it doesn't have to be in tandem with the next person's.


@Kratos, voting is not just a personal decision, it's also collective responsibility, it's a numbers game. If you want your man/woman to be elected then you need to convert the non-believers just like in religion. All I'm saying is I see nothing in UK's credentials to earn him my vote. It's not an argument.

BBI will solve it
:)
eboomerang
#97 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 11:33:15 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 6/27/2011
Posts: 301
Location: Nairobi
McReggae wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Folks talking about
international relations lost
the plot last year - even with
so called international
relations we still have
massive youth
unemployment, mashinda
shinda...

wa p, ua post was intelligent till u came to this utter ignorance. ever heard of pariah states of iran, zimbabwe, syria, this hopeless defiance to the evil n manipulative west will cost us much. we can elect a guy who they don't hate n enjoy our hustles in peace. we r still too dependent on the west in case u didn't know. too dependent even with our perceived economic independence.


Applause Applause Applause Applause very well said @thimioni!!!!

And on top of that, UK trashes the west to his supporters in public but in his personal matters, he shuns to hire local people and goes on to hire services of those same people whom "he has no need to work with"....and to his supporters this makes perfect sense.

If UK is not "mentally liberated" how can he lead a country with no ties with the west?
McReggae
#98 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 12:15:35 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/17/2008
Posts: 23,365
Location: Nairobi
eboomerang wrote:
McReggae wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Folks talking about
international relations lost
the plot last year - even with
so called international
relations we still have
massive youth
unemployment, mashinda
shinda...

wa p, ua post was intelligent till u came to this utter ignorance. ever heard of pariah states of iran, zimbabwe, syria, this hopeless defiance to the evil n manipulative west will cost us much. we can elect a guy who they don't hate n enjoy our hustles in peace. we r still too dependent on the west in case u didn't know. too dependent even with our perceived economic independence.


Applause Applause Applause Applause very well said @thimioni!!!!

And on top of that, UK trashes the west to his supporters in public but in his personal matters, he shuns to hire local people and goes on to hire services of those same people whom "he has no need to work with"....and to his supporters this makes perfect sense.

If UK is not "mentally liberated" how can he lead a country with no ties with the west?


His lawyers, his PR team even top board members of their companies like brookside are never kenyans!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
accelriskconsult
#99 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 12:35:08 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 4/2/2011
Posts: 629
Location: Nai
I guess that Kenyans do not understand how much they are risking to save 4 people.

If UK and WSR get elected;

The west will impose sanctions on Kenya.

The flower, tea and coffee industries will collapse (especially flowers).

All the oil exploration work will be left to Chinese companies (who will dictate terms since there is no competition). Road construction will stop because the Chinese no longer have competition on foreign relations.

In short the economy will go belly up.

Forget arguments about neo colonization. Our economy is firmly based on the purchasing power of foreigners. And before you shout that Uganda is our biggest trading partner, remember that Uganda too will be threatened with sanctions.


eboomerang
#100 Posted : Tuesday, November 06, 2012 12:48:17 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 6/27/2011
Posts: 301
Location: Nairobi
McReggae wrote:
eboomerang wrote:
McReggae wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Folks talking about
international relations lost
the plot last year - even with
so called international
relations we still have
massive youth
unemployment, mashinda
shinda...

wa p, ua post was intelligent till u came to this utter ignorance. ever heard of pariah states of iran, zimbabwe, syria, this hopeless defiance to the evil n manipulative west will cost us much. we can elect a guy who they don't hate n enjoy our hustles in peace. we r still too dependent on the west in case u didn't know. too dependent even with our perceived economic independence.


Applause Applause Applause Applause very well said @thimioni!!!!

And on top of that, UK trashes the west to his supporters in public but in his personal matters, he shuns to hire local people and goes on to hire services of those same people whom "he has no need to work with"....and to his supporters this makes perfect sense.

If UK is not "mentally liberated" how can he lead a country with no ties with the west?


His lawyers, his PR team even top board members of their companies like brookside are never kenyans!!!!

It's hard to understand how these facts and truths continue to elude so many of us.

These people are building a career on our ignorance and jeopardizing our future once again on our ignorance.

The information has been provided for us to see and make sense of it but we would rather continue standing and in this case die in our tribal straight jackets.
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