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MPC in Kenya HIKES CBK Rate BY 400BP to 11%
KulaRaha
#91 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:29:19 PM
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Today they're in the market mopping up shillings, while interbank is at 13%+ already.

Does anyone think in CBK?
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
the deal
#92 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:38:47 PM
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SA to use reserves to ease market stress http://mobile.bloomberg....gory=%2Fnews%2Fafrica%2F
kizee1
#93 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:50:44 PM
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[quote=the deal]SA to use reserves to ease market stress http://mobile.bloomberg....ory=%2Fnews%2Fafrica%2F[/quote]



always an option i say, always an option!
Cde Monomotapa
#94 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:01:28 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Today they're in the market mopping up shillings, while interbank is at 13%+ already.

Does anyone think in CBK?

Yes. Sell your forex.
Wendz
#95 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:46:30 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
I think Prof. Ndung'u should rely on his legal security of tenure & go ahead with direct selling to oil importers and see how that pans out. Screw politicizing Kenyan livelihoods!!

Combo it with that IMF BoP support for extra ammo incase the banksters try to pull a fast one.


IMF support is $500m. Monthly shortfall is $600m.. How will it help?

FYI it is directed to oil-importers only. So sell USDs to them at a discount and watch whether it'll ease energy & fuel inflation. What's our monthly oil bill?


Monthly oil bill for Kenya is about 20B. CBK reserves around 390B. If IMF chips in, add 50B more.

So they can pay oil bill for Kenya between them for 22 months and wipe out reserves.

Good idea?

So they said they would equally secure USD supply from large exporters kina KTDA etc


Total dollar inflows into Kenya per month are 43B. If they capture full dollar inflows, pay oil bill 20B and keep balance 23B in reserves, what do you think will happen to the market?

Suddenly no dollars for the other importers....


You are clearly in banking... treasury that is.... so, will the banks sit back and wait for the CBK to empty their reserves before they can sell theirs? While they have board meetings to report to? The banks are already making obscene profits with the forex misbehaving, so cutting it down to even 100 or 95, they'd still be making some money...

Disclaimer: am still torn between complaining or urging the CBK not to do anything until it reaches 200...(tongue in the cheek)
selah
#96 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:18:24 PM
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What I dont get is, why increase CBR when inflation is not being caused by too much liquidity but imported inflation?

The Ksh speculative attack is a symptom of weak economic fundamentals and I think the CBR hike is just exacerbating the problem.

CBK is powerless unless a concerted effort to cut the current and fiscal deficit is addressed the speculators will continue hitting the Ksh hard.



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Cde Monomotapa
#97 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 4:35:12 PM
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I'm thinking since the Hague didn't generate much a buzz for Kenyans...KES to the rescue with bulk fodder Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Najivunia kuwa Mkenya!
kizee1
#98 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:26:47 PM
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Wendz wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
I think Prof. Ndung'u should rely on his legal security of tenure & go ahead with direct selling to oil importers and see how that pans out. Screw politicizing Kenyan livelihoods!!

Combo it with that IMF BoP support for extra ammo incase the banksters try to pull a fast one.


IMF support is $500m. Monthly shortfall is $600m.. How will it help?

FYI it is directed to oil-importers only. So sell USDs to them at a discount and watch whether it'll ease energy & fuel inflation. What's our monthly oil bill?


Monthly oil bill for Kenya is about 20B. CBK reserves around 390B. If IMF chips in, add 50B more.

So they can pay oil bill for Kenya between them for 22 months and wipe out reserves.

Good idea?

So they said they would equally secure USD supply from large exporters kina KTDA etc


Total dollar inflows into Kenya per month are 43B. If they capture full dollar inflows, pay oil bill 20B and keep balance 23B in reserves, what do you think will happen to the market?

Suddenly no dollars for the other importers....


You are clearly in banking... treasury that is.... so, will the banks sit back and wait for the CBK to empty their reserves before they can sell theirs? While they have board meetings to report to? The banks are already making obscene profits with the forex misbehaving, so cutting it down to even 100 or 95, they'd still be making some money...

Disclaimer: am still torn between complaining or urging the CBK not to do anything until it reaches 200...(tongue in the cheek)



the overnite rate will hit 17! by weeks end expect bank to hike lendin rates by 200-400bpts...when did we start following what uganda does?
KulaRaha
#99 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:35:06 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Today they're in the market mopping up shillings, while interbank is at 13%+ already.

Does anyone think in CBK?

Yes. Sell your forex.


Sell my forex and do what with shillings?

Why dont CBK sell those reserves they're hoarding? Isn't this what they're for? Ama they need them to bankroll some politicians next year?

Now we're getting to the gist of things!
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
the deal
#100 Posted : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:54:31 PM
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The money markets are very dry..liquidity crunch...look at today's 20% subscription of T-bills..they also got 17% through today's repo's...what next printing money? OccupyNairobi should be changed to occupy CBK...
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