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Plan to Censure PM
Jaina
#1 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2009 3:07:36 AM
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The Plan by the so called RV MPs to censure RAO is doomed to fail. These fellows are just confirming our fears that they are selfish lunatics with no other agenda execpt their shameless personal gains.

It is Sad that the president is as always mum on the issue.
cmk
#2 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:46:43 AM
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it will definately fail..sometimes i wonder at the kind of tribal leaders kenyans continue to glorify.shame on all these faces of the future as balala called them.
Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do-
Voltaire
simonkabz
#3 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:17:59 AM
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Wee jaina, kibz akibonga ataharibu bwana. Please let the old man keep his mouth shut, ama unataka kusikia 'kubaff'?
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Kamaa
#4 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:32:11 AM
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but they are doomed...even if they censor him well kenyans are not naive anymore..
When you hear what I say, you will not understand. When you see what I do, you will not comprehend
nostoppingthis
#5 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2009 5:36:38 AM
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The National Accord signed by the two Princiles makes it very difficult for that motion to go through. Mau eviction is ratified by GOK, and as supervisor and coordinator RAO is only doing his job..RV MPs dont seem to have grasped the issue here, most of them have acres of land within the Mau forest, this could be what they are protecting (by targetting to demand compensation of land received for "free")Shame on you
Ngalaka
#6 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2009 6:36:59 AM
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Very little in our parliament is issue oriented. Much of it is just plain old politics. We have had about two other censure motions in the 10th parliament all politics driven.
Railas posturing towards both was cagey - and dishonesty.
Remember how he played Kimunya.
Orengo his side kick feigned naivety about what figure stamp duty is based on as he deliberately misled the country on the sale price and the parties to the sale.

Equally this latest motion to censure Raila isnt entirely based on sound principles, but heck - Raila is not a stranger in perpetuating these games.
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
Layman
#7 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2009 6:48:07 AM
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I think I would rather have River Sondu Miriu flowing continuously even if it means the Rt Honorable Raila being voted out by kalenjin Mpigs. Even though I doubt if this censure motion from Kalenjin MPigs will be anything. Why are they referred to as rift valley Mpigs, they are basically kalenjin Mpigs in RV
DonBen
#8 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2009 6:54:31 AM
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Ngalaka wrote:
Very little in our parliament is issue oriented. Much of it is just plain old politics. We have had about two other censure motions in the 10th parliament all politics driven.
Railas posturing towards both was cagey - and dishonesty.
Remember how he played Kimunya.
Orengo his side kick feigned naivety about what figure stamp duty is based on as he deliberately misled the country on the sale price and the parties to the sale.

Equally this latest motion to censure Raila isnt entirely based on sound principles, but heck - Raila is not a stranger in perpetuating these games.


@ Ngalaka

There is nothing like RAO being cagey and dishonest in censure motions so far brought to the floor of parliament.Your attempt at re-writting history cannot be let to pass without a challenge.

First off, in bunge, all members bear a vote each. And in this grand coalition, party loyalty bears very little meaning. RAO's vote is not any different from the rest of the MPs.

Secondly, Kimunya was found 'unfit to hold a public office' by a parliamentary committee. Before that, he had insulted MPs as engaging in bar talk. He also belittled those who opposed the safaricom IPO with he said 'NSE is not a fish market'. He also lied to the country about the irregular sale of the grand regency hotel until Orengo blew the whistle! His own arrogance did him in.

Thirdly, when all investigations were completed, it turned out that the National Strategic Reserve maize that Agriculture minister William Ruto was being accused of selling at throw-away prices was actually a department under the Ministry of Special Programmes, with absolutely no connection to Rutos ministry. Infact, it turned out Ruto's censure motion was aimed at splitting the ODM, just as the politics of the day has been twisted and the MAU relocations are now splitting the party ODM. Do you see the common thread?

MPs are simply not making good use their legislative power to make this country better. MPs are not making good use of the Prime Ministers question time to hold government / executive to account. MPs are not accountable to anyone and most of the time use their people given mandate for horse-trading and trivial politicking. That is where the problem lies. Perhaps a re-call clause is coming too late into the history of Kenya!

The local tribunal bill is a prime example of how the 10th parliament has let down the country. You cannot blame the PM for the failure of constituting a local tribunal, just like Imanyara is doing, can you?
Intelligentsia
#9 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2009 6:59:29 AM
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We should look at it for what it is - abuse of office and misuse of the Censure process for selfish gains by the planners..aka good old impunity.

Misuse because they are using their position to advance their own selfish interests (protection of their Mau plots, 2012 polls) at the expense of national good (preservation of a water tower which is a govt policy they themselves endorsed). I think these RV Mpigs are pure rubbish and hypocritical, they have an exaggerated sense of self-importance. Someone needs to prick this inflated ego balloon like yesterday...Ocampo uko wapi?! RAO should not budge at all, and it is gratifying that in this the public is solidly behind him. Lets pass this draft and invoke that recall clause pronto.
McReggae
#10 Posted : Tuesday, December 01, 2009 8:19:50 AM
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Can we stop calling these thugs as RV MPigss as someone suggested coz not all Mpigs from RV are advancing the same!!!!
Secondly these people seem to forget that the National Accord was signed between Raila and Kibaki and not the PM and the President!!!!.....ignorant fools I might add!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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