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Best shares to speculate in
Iborian
#1 Posted : Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:10:00 PM
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I vote for:


Mumias Sugar
Equity Bank
Safaricom

In that order.

There are of course no absolutes in our (or any) market. But I believe these are the best speculative shares for 2009. And they have proved to be pretty good for me so far.
stonemimi
#2 Posted : Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:26:00 PM
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Why do you want to speculate? You want to loose your money? Never speculate in stocks: invest. Buy a piece of the company and hold. Heard of the Warren Way?
SUSU
#3 Posted : Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:30:00 PM
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what are your buying and dumping prices?

INCLUDE:- CMC12-13,KRE12+ -13,KENGONE 13+ - 14+.

for 'value speculation'Laughing out loudlyTK,KCB,KQ

@Stonewewe:- Speculation spices up the Market.... If u neeed some quick money and want 2 play it safe just speculate on the value stocks.no one value stock will go up 'oneway' always in a partern...so just sellect some cool value/fundamentally stable shares and time the trend...make speed cash..if things turn to be bitter then change ur tactics to HOLD...They say buying and selling wont,ake u good money than when u keep on Holding...I dont think this is always the case..what u think?
Iborian
#4 Posted : Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:45:00 PM
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@Stonemimi. I have heard of the Warren Way and it is not my way. I have also heard of others who did not use the Buffet style of investing and still made/make money. Names such as Jesse Livermoore,George Soros and Jim Rogers come to mind. I know I will make money by investing steadily,but I do not have the patience for that. Remember,there is intelligent speculation,which entails thorough research,superior emotional balance and great decisiveness. Of course,I recognise the risks,but the rewards are usually worth it.

'When you do not know a thing,admit that you do not know it. This is knowledge' - Confucius
festom
#5 Posted : Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:59:00 PM
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I would go for KQ,safaricom and Access kenya

Don't sit and wait - look for the next opportunity
Iborian
#6 Posted : Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:16:00 PM
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@Susu. Prices keep changing. Hence entry and exit prices will change as well. E.g. on my latest round,I bought Mumias @5.70 and sold at 6.60-6.80; Safaricom at 3.15-3.05 and sold between 3.50 to 3.80 while I bought Equity @16-16.30 and sold at 17.50. I am now waiting for them to fall in order to buy again. I do not generally have any price targets at which I will buy or sell. I just watch the market closely especially the volumes. The choice of shares are based on their degree of volatility - the greater the better! While,I will usually make my buys in 1 or 2 lots,I tend to spread out my sales to limit the risk of a price reversal. However,it is worth noting - speculation is full time work - a hard and trying adrenaline filled business,but ultimately rewarding and loads of fun.

'When you do not know a thing,admit that you do not know it. This is knowledge' - Confucius
gogeta
#7 Posted : Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:20:00 PM
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KQ na access....

Wisdom brightens a man's face and changes its hard appearance.Eccle 8:1
Think the unthinkable but wear a dark suit
stonemimi
#8 Posted : Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:55:00 PM
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@Iborian,

I wish you were a little patient. You are hardly making any money. In fact you are making your broker rich while you patiently marktime. Buying safcom @3:15 and sell @3:60 makes you 11% from which your broker takes 6% and you 5%. Yea,your 100,000 will yield 5,000 might sound ok,but depends on how long you'll be waiting to locate another cheap stock to buy. I am still holding. Today it is @3:80: are you going to climb?
Iborian
#9 Posted : Tuesday, July 07, 2009 2:37:00 PM
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@Stonemimi. You appear to be assuming that I invested Kshs 100,000. I actually put in a lot more and my profit on Safcom alone was in excess of 100K. However,that is really not the point,since even a gain of Kshs 5,000 is still money. Part of the reason for my choice of the stocks I have cited is the fact that I can buy and sell reasonably good volumes on any given day. Fortunately,for me due to my frequent activity and fairly good volumes,I am able to negotiate lower commissions (1% for the broker plus 0.34% fo the NSE,CDSC and other statutory levies). So even if a share goes up by 5%,I will still make at least 2%. The broker (together with NSE et al) makes 2.68% on both the buy and sell,but I do not begrudge him that. The 2% could be 2,000 or it could be Kshs 20,000. Either way,it is money that I did not have before the transaction.

You say you are still holding Safaricom at 3.80. What price did you buy them at? Do you know that Safricom closed today with shares on offer at a price of Kshs 3.70 with no takers? Tomorrow,who knows? Mumias traded at Kshs 6.15 at the close against the 6.80 it sold on Friday. I could easily buy it again tomorrow.

By the way,please note that we are not in a bull market,where the strategy of buy and hold works. The market is always fluctuating,especially in unsetted times like these. Of course sometimes I have to wait to get my target stock at a viable price,but I do not mind the waiting,if neccessary. And I can get in and out of a stock countless times while you keep holding it.



'When you do not know a thing,admit that you do not know it. This is knowledge' - Confucius
Magnetic Touch
#10 Posted : Tuesday, July 07, 2009 3:23:00 PM
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To each,their own poison.

Yangu ni Safaricom,Access and KQ.


Men occasionally stumble over the truth,but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.
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