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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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In a mosque, many casualties "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/8/2008 Posts: 1,575
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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Hatred of immigrants.... very sad indeed.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Was the gunman a white supremacist? And New Zealand is not original land to the occupying whites. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:Was the gunman a white supremacist?
And New Zealand is not original land to the occupying whites. Probably "lone gunmen" since I guess they were not Muslims, the term terrorist does not refer to them.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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2012 wrote:Impunity wrote:Was the gunman a white supremacist?
And New Zealand is not original land to the occupying whites. Probably "lone gunmen" since I guess they were not Muslims, the term terrorist does not refer to them. NZ PM has already called it an act of terror
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/13/2012 Posts: 139
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TERRORIST, no lone gunman, no White supremacist, they guy was streaming the killing live Impunity wrote:Was the gunman a white supremacist?
And New Zealand is not original land to the occupying whites.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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God! the live video is too horrifying! Nausetic.  Just one man, he even had enough time to go back and ensure they were all dead!but why were cops slow on this? Oh hell!damn! "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Yet another example of white terrorism, the worst perpetrators of world genocide. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,590
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Oh hell, that video is shocking. Can't believe one can do that to another human being.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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essyk wrote:God! the live video is too horrifying! Nausetic. Just one man, he even had enough time to go back and ensure they were all dead!but why were cops slow on this? Oh hell!damn! Was this camera mounted on the gun itself or on his/her head? Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/17/2008 Posts: 488
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Such a needless loss of innocent lives...
But i can't help recalling sometime in the mid 2000s when Nbi was hosting the ICC world cup, i guess.
NZ boycotted the event on account of insecurity,read terrorism,in Kenya.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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A positive thing about such events is that we get an opportunity to look at how we use language to resolve our inner tension. And when we see how we use language, we get a glimpse of how our minds are working.
For example: how have we classified this event, and how does this classification indicate our thinking?
In the first instance, it appears that many of us are happy to classify this event as a 'terrorist' act. The basis of this classification is an eagerness for the classification, the New Zealand government assertion, and there's other reason of MO, and in particular, the reason of live streaming.
Are these reasons sufficient for the classification? Could the word 'terrorism' be suffering from misuse?
When we jump into the classification bandwagon what happens next? Could we be unwittingly allowing governments to be more oppressive? An example of this could be in the case of Shemuma Begum the young girl who joined ISIS at fifteen, got pregnant... And recently lost her citizenship to any country, and by extension had her son killed constructively.
Does our desire for this classification help us to dodge human, not just civic duty?
In the end, when we accept such classification blindly, we become members of the same class, and sustain the recurrence of similar acts. We are legitimizing the acts.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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Impunity wrote:essyk wrote:God! the live video is too horrifying! Nausetic. Just one man, he even had enough time to go back and ensure they were all dead!but why were cops slow on this? Oh hell!damn! Was this camera mounted on the gun itself or on his/her head? Looks like it was mounted on his forehead. they rushed to one corner at the sound of the first shot, at least 3/4 of them, no wonder the fatalities were high. A woman managed to escape,but she wasn't too lucky.This is one sick mind.  "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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essyk wrote:God! the live video is too horrifying! Nausetic. Just one man, he even had enough time to go back and ensure they were all dead!but why were cops slow on this? Oh hell!damn! Because of his skin colour or the name...!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Inna lillahi wa inna illehi rajiun (from God we all come from and to Him we shall return)
My heartfelt condolences and prayers are with the victims of the terror attack! And comfort and patience for the friends and families.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote:
My point was...
1) a deranged lone wolf with psychological problems - is a moniker for WHITE PERSON
2) a terrorist - a muslim
3) a thug - a "brother" i.e. African American, A person of color
the idea of the "lone wolf" is designed to distance the actions of this person from the rest of society... a deranged individual with psychological problems. the rest of the labels are used to associate the attacker with their groups of origin.
Remember, when a white person does something great - IT'S ATTRIBUTED TO THE GROUP. When he does something bad - IT'S ATTRIBUTED TO THE INDIVIDUAL. When a black person or a person of color does something great - IT'S ATTRIBUTED TO THE INDIVIDUAL, when the person of color does something bad - IT'S ATTRIBUTED TO THE GROUP!
Mavegs put it right. Senator Fraser Anning claiming Muslim immigration is responsible for today's terrorist attack! It is sickening to see such senseless comments, he is fostering hatred.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:
My point was...
1) a deranged lone wolf with psychological problems - is a moniker for WHITE PERSON
2) a terrorist - a muslim
3) a thug - a "brother" i.e. African American, A person of color
the idea of the "lone wolf" is designed to distance the actions of this person from the rest of society... a deranged individual with psychological problems. the rest of the labels are used to associate the attacker with their groups of origin.
Remember, when a white person does something great - IT'S ATTRIBUTED TO THE GROUP. When he does something bad - IT'S ATTRIBUTED TO THE INDIVIDUAL. When a black person or a person of color does something great - IT'S ATTRIBUTED TO THE INDIVIDUAL, when the person of color does something bad - IT'S ATTRIBUTED TO THE GROUP!
Mavegs put it right. Senator Fraser Anning claiming Muslim immigration is responsible for today's terrorist attack! It is sickening to see such senseless comments, he is fostering hatred. Maybe the New Zealanders had lived in peace and quiet since the founding of their nation but due to recent immigration they can no longer have any sleep in the morning due to the morning loudspeaker call for prayer. Maybe that drove them to the wall.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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hardwood wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:
My point was...
1) a deranged lone wolf with psychological problems - is a moniker for WHITE PERSON
2) a terrorist - a muslim
3) a thug - a "brother" i.e. African American, A person of color
the idea of the "lone wolf" is designed to distance the actions of this person from the rest of society... a deranged individual with psychological problems. the rest of the labels are used to associate the attacker with their groups of origin.
Remember, when a white person does something great - IT'S ATTRIBUTED TO THE GROUP. When he does something bad - IT'S ATTRIBUTED TO THE INDIVIDUAL. When a black person or a person of color does something great - IT'S ATTRIBUTED TO THE INDIVIDUAL, when the person of color does something bad - IT'S ATTRIBUTED TO THE GROUP!
Mavegs put it right. Senator Fraser Anning claiming Muslim immigration is responsible for today's terrorist attack! It is sickening to see such senseless comments, he is fostering hatred. Maybe the New Zealanders had lived in peace and quiet since the founding of their nation but due to recent immigration they can no longer have any sleep in the morning due to the morning loudspeaker call for prayer. Maybe that drove them to the wall. Fact: New Zealand is not original land to the occupying whites. Neither is Australia. Check your history. Islamophobia is real and hate-filled white supremacists like this guy exists And people like you are siding with terrorist. Shameless!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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What's the bickering about, the Kiwis have already called the man a terrorist "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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