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#1 Posted : Tuesday, March 05, 2019 9:17:26 AM
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Did this Sanlam just report a loss of Ksh 2b?!
BBI will solve it :)
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Ericsson
#2 Posted : Tuesday, March 05, 2019 9:21:43 AM
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2012 wrote:
Did this Sanlam just report a loss of Ksh 2b?!
Where paste link here.
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Mastermind
#3 Posted : Tuesday, March 05, 2019 9:56:16 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
2012 wrote:
Did this Sanlam just report a loss of Ksh 2b?!
Where paste link here.
Magazetini and there is a thread http://wazua.co.ke/forum...s&t=37324#post864379
If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is where they should be. Now put the foundations under them.
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Ericsson
#4 Posted : Friday, February 21, 2020 10:22:07 AM
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Sanlam FY19 SANLAM FY19 Net earned premium +5.1% to Sh5.6bn Total income +50% to Sh8.9bn, mainly on FV losses reducing from -Sh1.9bn to a gain of Sh422m. FY18 v. FY19 Claims ratio 95% v. 86% Expense ratio 54% v. 62% Combined ratio 150% v. 148% While PBT improved to Sh550m from a loss of Sh2bn, the tax rate was a whopping 79% with no explanation given. As a result, EPS was just Sh0.79 from a whopping -Sh14.01 in FY18. Total assets remained largely flat at Sh29bn. Book value is Sh12 & share likely to trade BELOW THAT. Cash resources at the end of the period collapsed by 55% to Sh1.195bn due to loan repayments & increased investing activities. Despite loan repayments of Sh1bn, total liabilities decreased by slightly above Sh200m, which is pretty insignificant. https://pbs.twimg.com/me...ormat=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/me...rmat=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/me...ormat=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/me...ormat=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/me...rmat=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/me...ormat=jpg&name=large
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Ebenyo
#5 Posted : Friday, February 21, 2020 11:12:32 AM
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investment income- kshs 2,350,289,000. Net claims and policy holders benefits- kshs 4,836,423,000 If they work hard at increasing their investment income,they will make enough to clear claims and policy holders benefits hence increase their net profit.
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Angelica _ann
#6 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2020 10:35:37 AM
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Ebenyo wrote:
investment income- kshs 2,350,289,000. Net claims and policy holders benefits- kshs 4,836,423,000 If they work hard at increasing their investment income,they will make enough to clear claims and policy holders benefits hence increase their net profit.
I guess their aggressiveness in investment must have been slowed down by CP and CB that burned them over the last 3 years. So the MD during the results briefing/presentation say that they are taking a cautious approach to investment as they review their policy on investment and risk management. They will recover going forward - next results will be hugely improved.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Ericsson
#7 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2020 12:25:10 PM
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Insurer Sanlam sold off a property (Sanlam House) worth Ksh.450 million in December 2019 as it sought to cut its exposure to the struggling real estate industry. https://citizentv.co.ke/...million-property-323848/
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sparkly
#8 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2020 2:06:35 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Insurer Sanlam sold off a property (Sanlam House) worth Ksh.450 million in December 2019 as it sought to cut its exposure to the struggling real estate industry. https://citizentv.co.ke/...million-property-323848/
Ati struggling real estate? They sold to prop up their numbers, otherwise they would have reported losses of over 300m.
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VituVingiSana
#9 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2020 5:22:51 PM
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sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Insurer Sanlam sold off a property (Sanlam House) worth Ksh.450 million in December 2019 as it sought to cut its exposure to the struggling real estate industry. https://citizentv.co.ke/...million-property-323848/
Ati struggling real estate? They sold to prop up their numbers, otherwise they would have reported losses of over 300m.
Unless the "profit" on the property was 300mn+, it would have done little to help them. Sale Price - Cost + Depreciation - any prior "FV Gains" - Costs to sell = Profit in the current year Isn't real estate, especially office space, suffering?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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sparkly
#10 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2020 8:56:50 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Insurer Sanlam sold off a property (Sanlam House) worth Ksh.450 million in December 2019 as it sought to cut its exposure to the struggling real estate industry. https://citizentv.co.ke/...million-property-323848/
Ati struggling real estate? They sold to prop up their numbers, otherwise they would have reported losses of over 300m.
Unless the "profit" on the property was 300mn+, it would have done little to help them. Sale Price - Cost + Depreciation - any prior "FV Gains" - Costs to sell = Profit in the current year Isn't real estate, especially office space, suffering?
If the building in question is Sanlam House, then the residual value of the building is nominal and almost all the proceeds were capital gain.
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