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Loss making companies at the NSE
obiero
#1 Posted : Tuesday, May 01, 2018 11:52:15 AM
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Maybe we need a quick reference point for all the listed companies currently in loss territory.. Here they are: arm, cables, cargeneral, deacons, eapc, eveready, express, ftg, hal, kapch, kurwitu, kq, limuru, mumias, olympia, sameer, uchumi, umeme, wtk

If you ask me, these are many companies for the number of listed companies at the NSE. More reason to support the exchange bar theory that less than 20 listed firms make the cut as viable investments

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Ebenyo
#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 01, 2018 4:24:32 PM
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obiero wrote:
Maybe we need a quick reference point for all the listed companies currently in loss territory.. Here they are: arm, cables, cargeneral, deacons, eapc, eveready, express, ftg, hal, kapch, kurwitu, kq, limuru, mumias, olympia, sameer, uchumi, umeme, wtk

If you ask me, these are many companies for the number of listed companies at the NSE. More reason to support the exchange bar theory that less than 20 listed firms make the cut as viable investments



Loss making companies are not suitable for investment.However speculators find something in them.But its good to keep off those companies both speculators and Long term investors.
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VituVingiSana
#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 01, 2018 4:29:14 PM
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obiero wrote:
Maybe we need a quick reference point for all the listed companies currently in loss territory.. Here they are: arm, cables, cargeneral, deacons, eapc, eveready, express, ftg, hal, kapch, kurwitu, kq, limuru, mumias, olympia, sameer, uchumi, umeme, wtk

If you ask me, these are many companies for the number of listed companies at the NSE. More reason to support the exchange bar theory that less than 20 listed firms make the cut as viable investments

Hi @Obiero, which firms from the list above have not made a profit for 5 years?
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obiero
#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 01, 2018 4:31:21 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Maybe we need a quick reference point for all the listed companies currently in loss territory.. Here they are: arm, cables, cargeneral, deacons, eapc, eveready, express, ftg, hal, kapch, kurwitu, kq, limuru, mumias, olympia, sameer, uchumi, umeme, wtk

If you ask me, these are many companies for the number of listed companies at the NSE. More reason to support the exchange bar theory that less than 20 listed firms make the cut as viable investments

Hi @Obiero, which firms from the list above have not made a profit for 5 years?

Hi @vvs.. I am not sure

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VituVingiSana
#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 01, 2018 4:45:56 PM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Maybe we need a quick reference point for all the listed companies currently in loss territory.. Here they are: arm, cables, cargeneral, deacons, eapc, eveready, express, ftg, hal, kapch, kurwitu, kq, limuru, mumias, olympia, sameer, uchumi, umeme, wtk

If you ask me, these are many companies for the number of listed companies at the NSE. More reason to support the exchange bar theory that less than 20 listed firms make the cut as viable investments

Hi @Obiero, which firms from the list above have not made a profit for 5 years?

Hi @vvs.. I am not sure

Hmmm, perhaps other Wazuans can help...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 01, 2018 4:57:38 PM
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obiero wrote:
Maybe we need a quick reference point for all the listed companies currently in loss territory.. Here they are: arm, cables, cargeneral, deacons, eapc, eveready, express, ftg, hal, kapch, kurwitu, kq, limuru, mumias, olympia, sameer, uchumi, umeme, wtk

If you ask me, these are many companies for the number of listed companies at the NSE. More reason to support the exchange bar theory that less than 20 listed firms make the cut as viable investments


Agriculturals on the list can be forgiven since their business is cyclical depending on 1). weather both locally and in competitor nations 2). exchange rates 3). Labour and industrial action.

They have learnt to deal with the ups and downs by accumulating reserves as well sitting on huge tracts of land.

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 01, 2018 6:02:20 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
Maybe we need a quick reference point for all the listed companies currently in loss territory.. Here they are: arm, cables, cargeneral, deacons, eapc, eveready, express, ftg, hal, kapch, kurwitu, kq, limuru, mumias, olympia, sameer, uchumi, umeme, wtk

If you ask me, these are many companies for the number of listed companies at the NSE. More reason to support the exchange bar theory that less than 20 listed firms make the cut as viable investments

Hi @Obiero, which firms from the list above have not made a profit for 5 years?

Hi @vvs.. I am not sure

Hmmm, perhaps other Wazuans can help...


Could it be the famous KQ?
VituVingiSana
#8 Posted : Tuesday, May 01, 2018 6:42:48 PM
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sparkly wrote:
obiero wrote:
Maybe we need a quick reference point for all the listed companies currently in loss territory.. Here they are: arm, cables, cargeneral, deacons, eapc, eveready, express, ftg, hal, kapch, kurwitu, kq, limuru, mumias, olympia, sameer, uchumi, umeme, wtk

If you ask me, these are many companies for the number of listed companies at the NSE. More reason to support the exchange bar theory that less than 20 listed firms make the cut as viable investments


Agriculturals on the list can be forgiven since their business is cyclical depending on 1). weather both locally and in competitor nations 2). exchange rates 3). Labour and industrial action.

They have learnt to deal with the ups and downs by accumulating reserves as well sitting on huge tracts of land.

I don't think most agricultural firms have made losses for 5 years running. I know Kakuzi, Williamson and Kapchorua have made both profits and losses since 2012.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Pesa Nane
#9 Posted : Tuesday, May 01, 2018 6:50:23 PM
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obiero wrote:
Maybe we need a quick reference point for all the listed companies currently in loss territory.. Here they are: arm, cables, cargeneral, deacons, eapc, eveready, express, ftg, hal, kapch, kurwitu, kq, limuru, mumias, olympia, sameer, uchumi, umeme, wtk

If you ask me, these are many companies for the number of listed companies at the NSE. More reason to support the exchange bar theory that less than 20 listed firms make the cut as viable investments


Flame Tree made a profit of Ksh. 40 million, if memory serves me right.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
obiero
#10 Posted : Tuesday, May 01, 2018 7:19:46 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
Maybe we need a quick reference point for all the listed companies currently in loss territory.. Here they are: arm, cables, cargeneral, deacons, eapc, eveready, express, ftg, hal, kapch, kurwitu, kq, limuru, mumias, olympia, sameer, uchumi, umeme, wtk

If you ask me, these are many companies for the number of listed companies at the NSE. More reason to support the exchange bar theory that less than 20 listed firms make the cut as viable investments


Flame Tree made a profit of Ksh. 40 million, if memory serves me right.

Thanks for the update. Other corrections and additions are welcome

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