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FRM2011
#1 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 12:53:34 PM
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The fisheries PS, prof. Ntiba has told us there is a shortage of 800,000 tonnes of fish per year. Our annual consumption is 1 billion kgs of fish per year.

That is why we need to import 800,000 tonnes per year. He knew Kenyans aren't very sharp and our idiot journalists will be quoting the figure over and over.

Until one sharp Kenyan PhD holder interrogated the figure in this article below.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...1372-l4xkl4z/index.html.

BTW, this prof.ntiba was chief academic officer at puea where students graduated even though all the lecturers withheld the marks to protest delayed salaries.

Back to the fish story, we are five in my household including the housegal. So we are supposed to be eating 1kg of fish meat every three days.
sitaki.kujulikana
#2 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 1:23:03 PM
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Now as an experimental scientist, I interrogate, with the same fascination and curiosity, the numbers (data) that I generate, not only with respect to expected trends, but to tease out any “quacks” beyond the initial experimental hypotheses.


with that I was expecting some graphs and numbers from the population census, number of boats that go out fishing and the average daily catch, number of fishermen in the country and stuff, I was expecting some heavy number crunching from the experimental scientist, then he goes ahead and compares figures quoted in a newspaper in 2012.

then for an experimental scientist to conclude

Quote:

Add to this the fact that most of the fish is harvested in the western and coastal regions, historically opposition strongholds, and you will see why this could be construed as punishment through calculated sabotage.
Swenani
#3 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 1:41:42 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
The fisheries PS, prof. Ntiba has told us there is a shortage of 800,000 tonnes of fish per year. Our annual consumption is 1 billion kgs of fish per year.

That is why we need to import 800,000 tonnes per year. He knew Kenyans aren't very sharp and our idiot journalists will be quoting the figure over and over.

Until one sharp Kenyan PhD holder interrogated the figure in this article below.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...1372-l4xkl4z/index.html.

BTW, this prof.ntiba was chief academic officer at puea where students graduated even though all the lecturers withheld the marks to protest delayed salaries.

Back to the fish story, we are five in my household including the housegal. So we are supposed to be eating 1kg of fish meat every three days.


1 birrion kgs?

That losely translates to 25kgs per year for the 40 mirrion kenyan!!!!!.....posibble
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hardwood
#4 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 2:17:01 PM
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I have always bought fish fillet at the supermarket and was never reading the finer details on the label until that issue of fish from china came up and I started looking at the country of origin. What shocked me is that all the fish fillet being sold in our supermarkets is from china.
FRM2011
#5 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 2:18:42 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Quote:

Now as an experimental scientist, I interrogate, with the same fascination and curiosity, the numbers (data) that I generate, not only with respect to expected trends, but to tease out any “quacks” beyond the initial experimental hypotheses.


with that I was expecting some graphs and numbers from the population census, number of boats that go out fishing and the average daily catch, number of fishermen in the country and stuff, I was expecting some heavy number crunching from the experimental scientist, then he goes ahead and compares figures quoted in a newspaper in 2012.

then for an experimental scientist to conclude

Quote:

Add to this the fact that most of the fish is harvested in the western and coastal regions, historically opposition strongholds, and you will see why this could be construed as punishment through calculated sabotage.


It's simple. The lie is so outrageous a nursery school kid can see through it.

I made a simple demonstration. Every middle class family and above in central kenya, needs to be eating fish daily to compensate the lower classes who can't afford their 10kg per month.
sitaki.kujulikana
#6 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 2:24:20 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Quote:

Now as an experimental scientist, I interrogate, with the same fascination and curiosity, the numbers (data) that I generate, not only with respect to expected trends, but to tease out any “quacks” beyond the initial experimental hypotheses.


with that I was expecting some graphs and numbers from the population census, number of boats that go out fishing and the average daily catch, number of fishermen in the country and stuff, I was expecting some heavy number crunching from the experimental scientist, then he goes ahead and compares figures quoted in a newspaper in 2012.

then for an experimental scientist to conclude

Quote:

Add to this the fact that most of the fish is harvested in the western and coastal regions, historically opposition strongholds, and you will see why this could be construed as punishment through calculated sabotage.


It's simple. The lie is so outrageous a nursery school kid can see through it.

I made a simple demonstration. Every middle class family and above in central kenya, needs to be eating fish daily to compensate the lower classes who can't afford their 10kg per month.

I don't have the data on this, but just for the sake of enlightenment, I think lower classes eat more fish (disregarding the type) than the middle class, plus I usually see guys coming from those sides za nyeri hanging fish on the side mirrors, though I have never understood why, but that shows there is a big demand for the same.
plus look at nairobi and everywhere you go from kibra to westlands and there are eateries which sell fish.
majimaji
#7 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 3:08:50 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Quote:

Now as an experimental scientist, I interrogate, with the same fascination and curiosity, the numbers (data) that I generate, not only with respect to expected trends, but to tease out any “quacks” beyond the initial experimental hypotheses.


with that I was expecting some graphs and numbers from the population census, number of boats that go out fishing and the average daily catch, number of fishermen in the country and stuff, I was expecting some heavy number crunching from the experimental scientist, then he goes ahead and compares figures quoted in a newspaper in 2012.

then for an experimental scientist to conclude

Quote:

Add to this the fact that most of the fish is harvested in the western and coastal regions, historically opposition strongholds, and you will see why this could be construed as punishment through calculated sabotage.


It's simple. The lie is so outrageous a nursery school kid can see through it.

I made a simple demonstration. Every middle class family and above in central kenya, needs to be eating fish daily to compensate the lower classes who can't afford their 10kg per month.

I don't have the data on this, but just for the sake of enlightenment, I think lower classes eat more fish (disregarding the type) than the middle class, plus I usually see guys coming from those sides za nyeri hanging fish on the side mirrors, though I have never understood why, but that shows there is a big demand for the same.
plus look at nairobi and everywhere you go from kibra to westlands and there are eateries which sell fish.


Fish in Kenya is very expensive. I would like to eat more fish but cant afford it.
AlphDoti
#8 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 3:24:08 PM
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majimaji wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Quote:

Now as an experimental scientist, I interrogate, with the same fascination and curiosity, the numbers (data) that I generate, not only with respect to expected trends, but to tease out any “quacks” beyond the initial experimental hypotheses.

with that I was expecting some graphs and numbers from the population census, number of boats that go out fishing and the average daily catch, number of fishermen in the country and stuff, I was expecting some heavy number crunching from the experimental scientist, then he goes ahead and compares figures quoted in a newspaper in 2012.

then for an experimental scientist to conclude
Quote:

Add to this the fact that most of the fish is harvested in the western and coastal regions, historically opposition strongholds, and you will see why this could be construed as punishment through calculated sabotage.

It's simple. The lie is so outrageous a nursery school kid can see through it.

I made a simple demonstration. Every middle class family and above in central kenya, needs to be eating fish daily to compensate the lower classes who can't afford their 10kg per month.

I don't have the data on this, but just for the sake of enlightenment, I think lower classes eat more fish (disregarding the type) than the middle class, plus I usually see guys coming from those sides za nyeri hanging fish on the side mirrors, though I have never understood why, but that shows there is a big demand for the same.
plus look at nairobi and everywhere you go from kibra to westlands and there are eateries which sell fish.

Fish in Kenya is very expensive. I would like to eat more fish but cant afford it.

@majimaji, it is funny, isn't? I went to some restaurant and paid sh500 for fish ugali. Are these guys telling us that I'm spending sh15k (500x30) per month? Yaani, 15,000 for fish only in the monthly budget? Multiply that with 5 people in @FRM2011 household and you are talking of 75K ONLY on fish per month!

Even if we say the price of fish is sh250. That means 7,500 per person per month! Which is sh37500 in @FRM2011 household!
FRM2011
#9 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 3:40:45 PM
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@alphadoti, that's why am saying the lie is so outrageous to imagine but prof. Ntiba is capable of anything.

At PUEA, he mismanaged the place so badly, it's the only private university facing risk of bankruptcy. Yaani lecturers refused to submit student scores but all the students graduated.

Am from nyeri and I saw what happened when Moi deliberately set out to kill coffee and tea sectors for political reasons.

Jubilee want to kill the fishing industry for political reasons. It's sad and very few Kenyans are smart enough to see a lie hidden in statistics.
KulaRaha
#10 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 4:44:56 PM
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Swenani has accurate fish statistics
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