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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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"In a rare departure from norm, where stakeholders for fear of repercussions prefer NOT to have their names mentioned when commenting on current affairs in Kenya – and elsewhere in East Africa too – has Jake Grieves Cook, one of Kenya’s most respected senior industry leaders broken his silence and gave his read on the current situation. Jake did also mention that his company took a serious financial hit, as did others too, as they had to absorb the VAT being loaded on to tourism services with no notice last year as contract claused did not permit them to pass on the added charges to prebooked and prepaid clients. Inspite of such government created obstacles did he however find prebookings strong and solid for his camps, a sign in his opinion that Kenya indeed still got what it takes and that clients continue to book quality safari services regardless of the British stink bomb of an anti-travel advisory. Find below the entire uncensored text of his mail which was just received some fifteen minutes ago:" Start text: ... Top Tourism Guru speaks up on Kenya’s security situation - Prof. Dr. Wolfgang H. Thome
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Fact! In collaboration with local opposition politicians. Just because the Chinese premier was here... Again we see the African being used to destroy themselves. Ni ujinga mwingi. http://mobile.nation.co....ml/-/ifa994/-/index.htmli.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Britain is behaving like a 'jilted lover' my fear is that they might even plant something just to prove their point. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/13/2014 Posts: 386 Location: Denmark
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murchr wrote:Britain is behaving like a 'jilted lover' my fear is that they might even plant something just to prove their point. very likely .. someone is really working hard to distabilize the country. Seeing is believing
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,452
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Economic Sabotage!!!Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,452
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This is painful and rather unfortunate. The economy will suffer. People will lose jobs. Kids will drop out of school etc. etc. We need all friends we can get. We cannot exist as an island. We need partnerships - economic, security etc. But what we cannot do is give in imperialism by any country!!! Anyone who tries it can go to hell!Of course we can't eat patriotism and independence but we also can't prostitute ourselves to any country as some would have do to 'eat'. Even an uneducated villager with self respect will not let you run his house - when he should eat, land, sleep; who should visit; friends he should have etc. - just because you give him some maize and beans [while getting all that is valuable from his farm for a song]. He will tell you to go to hell!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,452
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This fellows want us to shun China and the east in general!! What hypocrisy. China's Largest Trading Partners US owes China...What the US owes China - Latest FiguresThese countries lost the 'war' against China long time ago!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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Why are we crying and we said we can do without them?i thot we didnt need their money when we were openly mocking them,let china bring tourists. Those who were saying that are multi billionaires so the common mwananchi will always face the consequences of their choices...iam not a politician so my comment is not inclined to any person however i hope we voted in a neutral man like mudavadi because however you may want to defend this gvt,its not world friendly,they pretent to be friends to us but do the opposite and this is diplomacy they will never come out open.lets prepare the worst is yet to come. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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Tanzania is the biggest beneficially of the problems in Kenya. Zanzibar beach hotels and Serengeti safari lodges and tented camps reporting booming business. Charter flights to Zanzibar have increased. Tourists can get a similar product in TZ..... minus the terror. Tanzania Voted the Best Safari Country of Africa
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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Tanzania is about to be announced the biggest e.africas economy,with their politics being more stable and a neutral stand btw the east and west but friendly more to west,they can only overtake kenya,what our leaders failed to look is where our money comes from,china will ruin us as they are the only beneficiaries with loan interests,counterfeit goods dumping to kenya and fat contracts,what kenya can export to china is may be dogs. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,452
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mlennyma wrote:i hope we voted in a neutral man like mudavadi Ukoloni mambo leo??? Emancipate yourself from mental slavery!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964
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Lamentation indeed, short term, we all hope. However, trying to downplay China's growing influence in the world is an exercise in futility. Like there is also a proposed rail that is to run from China, through Europe to the US. Here, the PM talked of a Cape to Cairo rail, of course with the cross shoots - like the SGR. I think a better definition of friendship is where one (with greater power) levers the other to better themselves, to the overall betterment of the Whole. i.e http://news.xinhuanet.co...4-05/18/c_133342725.htm
The beggar thy neighbor syndrome is some historical thinking IMO.
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Rank: User Joined: 9/6/2013 Posts: 1,446 Location: In a house
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mlennyma wrote:Tanzania is about to be announced the biggest e.africas economy,with their politics being more stable and a neutral stand btw the east and west but friendly more to west,they can only overtake kenya,what our leaders failed to look is where our money comes from,china will ruin us as they are the only beneficiaries with loan interests,counterfeit goods dumping to kenya and fat contracts,what kenya can export to china is may be dogs. ... drugs and ivory too.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,905
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Not sure to what extent this agrees, but I note for the first time in aeons, Aly-Khan Satchu's article showed a vein of worry... He talks of red-signals on Kenya's dashboard: - Advisories and hasty departure of UK tourists - US ambassador's new request for security assets - Reduction of US embassy overall footprint - Tourism on its knees; Msa recession evident The Star: The Dash-Board Is Blinking Amber
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 985 Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:Lamentation indeed, short term, we all hope. However, trying to downplay China's growing influence in the world is an exercise in futility. Like there is also a proposed rail that is to run from China, through Europe to the US. Here, the PM talked of a Cape to Cairo rail, of course with the cross shoots - like the SGR. I think a better definition of friendship is where one (with greater power) levers the other to better themselves, to the overall betterment of the Whole. i.e http://news.xinhuanet.co...4-05/18/c_133342725.htm
The beggar thy neighbor syndrome is some historical thinking IMO. Everybody is flirting with China..Angola,SA,Nigeria,TZ,KE. The difference is how you do it.In KE,the approach is abrassive..Trust me much as China is growing,you cant rule the West as of yet.KE leadership needs to play it smart like the other African countries
“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964
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That's true @metasploit. Where is KE w/o the West. We're still pro-West on a lot of fronts. To the extent of committing suicide over the EPL  , but that doesn't mean we can't think for ourselves either. No. When SA was reviewing its foreign policy to a more pro-East, South-South stance, Europe wasn't happy either. Unajua tu...Innovate/Evolve or die. Let's also be frank. Like Apple being designed in Cali but made in China/East. What does that tell us? Now the manufacturers want to move to Africa, for the same reasons they moved from the West. Like those apparel companies looking to setup at our EPZ. Let's see.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 985 Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:That's true @metasploit. Where is KE w/o the West. We're still pro-West on a lot of fronts. To the extent of committing suicide over the EPL , but that doesn't mean we can't think for ourselves either. No. When SA was reviewing its foreign policy to a more pro-East, South-South stance, Europe wasn't happy either. Unajua tu...Innovate/Evolve or die. Let's also be frank. Like Apple being designed in Cali but made in China/East. What does that tell us? Now the manufacturers want to move to Africa, for the same reasons they moved from the West. Like those apparel companies looking to setup at our EPZ. Let's see. Agreed 100%. My opinion is for African countries to be completely independent.Chinese,like the West, are also opportunists. Africa has alot of potential.We just need to put our shit together,increase trade among ourselves and play it smart with both the west and east.Of course more inclination towards the east but diplomatically.Eventually we should be able to stand on our own. You should get this book (Economic Warfare: Sanctions, Embargo Busting, and Their Human Cost by R. Thomas Naylor)
“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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@maich you talk of ukoloni mambo leo,but its a fact the poor will remain colonised by even their fellow countrymen not even foreigners. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 985 Location: Dar es salaam,Tanzania
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Metasploit wrote:Cde Monomotapa wrote:That's true @metasploit. Where is KE w/o the West. We're still pro-West on a lot of fronts. To the extent of committing suicide over the EPL , but that doesn't mean we can't think for ourselves either. No. When SA was reviewing its foreign policy to a more pro-East, South-South stance, Europe wasn't happy either. Unajua tu...Innovate/Evolve or die. Let's also be frank. Like Apple being designed in Cali but made in China/East. What does that tell us? Now the manufacturers want to move to Africa, for the same reasons they moved from the West. Like those apparel companies looking to setup at our EPZ. Let's see. Agreed 100%. My opinion is for African countries to be completely independent.Chinese,like the West, are also opportunists. Africa has alot of potential.We just need to put our shit together,increase trade among ourselves and play it smart with both the west and east.Of course more inclination towards the east but diplomatically.Eventually we should be able to stand on our own. You should get this book (Economic Warfare: Sanctions, Embargo Busting, and Their Human Cost by R. Thomas Naylor) Most of the happenings in the world (read Egypt,Iraq,libya,Nigeria etc) are orchestrated by foreign powers with interest (West) . Unless you have solid stand,it is better to play it smart ( Flirt with East,but dont ignore the West) The chinese have zero investment in most african equity markets
“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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When we talk of China having USD 2Tn worth of US bonds, are we talking of the Chinese people through the gov or Chinese Corporations? If the later, the reality is that the Chinese Corporations are actually subsidiaries and associates of American Multinationals like Apple, Microsoft, GE etc which cannot repatriate their overseas profits directly into the USA due to taxation. They buy gov debt all over the world instead of paying dividends to Shareholders. The inclusion of caribbean banking centres in the list of top USA debt holders convinces me that the latter is the case. Life is short. Live passionately.
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