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Actualisation of Abuja declaration! - Muluka
Nandwa
#1 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 12:06:35 PM
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washiku
#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 12:30:51 PM
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Could someone reassure us that we are not in the incipient stages of the actualisation of the Abuja Declaration? When you make our places of worship unsafe, are you preparing to herd us into your own shrines? Are you preparing to dress us after your preferred fashion and to send our children into your kinds of schools? When Imams call from holy minarets for “the slaying of all Kaffirs” should we continue to feel safe in our Christian faith? When they openly vilify Jesus Christ on sonorous public address systems in mosques in Kangemi, Kawangware and Kibera should we continue to believe that all is well?
Muriel
#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 1:57:00 PM
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Funny they should draw parallels from Europe.

The chance to Islamise the world was eternally lost in the battle of Tours in Europe in 732. Had they succeeded there in Europe, we here and you in America today would be unquestionably muslim. Oh! If wishes were horses!

But we see an apparent increase of numbers of new converts to the faith. Converts who are most enthused and most willing to hasten the meeting with the maidens in the hereafter. Yet, according to our resident practitioners, that brand of conversion is bonoko. It is not Islam.

So what is what?

Either the conversion is indeed bonoko hence no or little commensurate increase in real actual muslim numbers, (hence still born declaration) or the conversions are the real thing but with lots of dispatches to the hereafter, (hence declaration is being implemented). Our point all along being on the dispatches.


washiku
#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 2:11:19 PM
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Peeping, as I await a very long, multi-coloured response complete with links and quotessmile
Nandwa
#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 3:33:30 PM
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washiku wrote:
Peeping, as I await a very long, multi-coloured response complete with links and quotessmile


Yeah, but with all the length most of the time it's just gibberish and side shows.

Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
radio
#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 5:13:53 PM
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Nandwa wrote:

washiku wrote:
Peeping, as I await a very long, multi-coloured response complete with links and quotessmile


Yeah, but with all the length most of the time it's just gibberish and side shows.



Funny enough, I have noted that I unconsciously quickly scroll past the multi-colored! Shame on me after all the paint smile that goes into it d'oh!
Coolbull
#7 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 7:31:09 PM
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During Katiba 2010, Christians were warned in churches not to pass the katiba due to the 'undue' advantage given to Muslims by the recognition and inclusion of religious courts in a constitution governing people of different faiths.

Many did not heed that warning despite being told about Abuja Declaration.

Muslims are taking over slowly by slowly, from the sea, air and land. By 2025, Christians in Kenya and by extension all other religions might be facing a situation similar to that being faced by Christians in Eritrea.

The time to act is now.
washiku
#8 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 7:37:52 PM
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Coolbull wrote:
During Katiba 2010, Christians were warned in churches not to pass the katiba due to the 'undue' advantage given to Muslims by the recognition and inclusion of religious courts in a constitution governing people of different faiths.

Many did not heed that warning despite being told about Abuja Declaration.

Muslims are taking over slowly by slowly, from the sea, air and land. By 2025, Christians in Kenya and by extension all other religions might be facing a situation similar to that being faced by Christians in Eritrea.

The time to act is now.


You have just placed an arsenal on @Guru's hands to cement her theory.
AlphDoti
#9 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:01:59 PM
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Coolbull wrote:
During Katiba 2010, Christians were warned in churches not to pass the katiba due to the 'undue' advantage given to Muslims by the recognition and inclusion of religious courts in a constitution governing people of different faiths.

Many did not heed that warning despite being told about Abuja Declaration.

Muslims are taking over slowly by slowly, from the sea, air and land. By 2025, Christians in Kenya and by extension all other religions might be facing a situation similar to that being faced by Christians in Eritrea.

The time to act is now.

@coolbull there was no need for you to say no to sharia law 2010, because it is already recognized in our constitution, even before you were born.

secondly, it does not affect you at all. Sharia Law, just like customary law, handles matters of (1)marriage, (2)divorce and (3)inheritance, only to those those who profess Islam.

If a Muslim commits a crime, he won't be taken to Sharia court, but to criminal court. If a christian commits a crime, he will be taken to same criminal court... But when a Muslim marries another Muslim, they'll be married under Sharia law.

So no need for you to have sleepless nights and hate. Please check it out and let me know if you find anything illegal about Sharia Law on marriage, divorce and inheritance.

You claim to be a Christian, what does the Bible say about all that sharia supports? It seems you've not been reading it, ah!
Money Whisperer
#10 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:48:01 PM
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I supported the amendment introduced by Mutava Musyimi but defeated by a walk out led by Martha karua that instead of kadhi courts we have religious courts that will be funded by the respective religions so we would have Jehova wanyonyi's court
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