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20% Stake for $100,000
TNT
#1 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:58:05 AM
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I'd like to sell a 20% stake in a 5-year-old Electrical Engineering Company for $100,000. Although the company has a healthy bottom line, it needs the capital to finance its expansion activities. If you are interested in this opportunity, please send me an email at investinelec25@gmail.com.

Finally, I'd prefer to discuss issues to do with the business in a formal setting, an office, for example, rather than on this thread.
muganda
#2 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:17:51 AM
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@TNT you do realise that you are valuing the company at over KShs 40m. Top of the head, your valuation means ideally:

* You should be generating at least KShs 6m after tax in profit, for a 7 year pay-back period.

* Or about KShs 8.5m profit before tax, with a revenue of about 42m annually (assuming CEO salary 1m, staff 1m monthly)

* And a fixed deal pipeline, down on contract, worth at least
21m annually, over 3 years, minimum of 3 clients
Leaving only 50% open to hustling, by a committed CEO with institutional memory.


Good speed...


TNT
#3 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:27:13 AM
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muganda wrote:
@TNT you do realise that you are valuing the company at over KShs 40m. Top of the head, your valuation means ideally:

* You should be generating at least KShs 6m after tax in profit, for a 7 year pay-back period.

* Or about KShs 8.5m profit before tax, with a revenue of about 42m annually (assuming CEO salary 1m, staff 1m monthly)

* And a fixed deal pipeline, down on contract, worth at least
21m annually, over 3 years, minimum of 3 clients
Leaving only 50% open to hustling, by a committed CEO with institutional memory.


Good speed...


@ Muganda: Have you seen the company's books/audited accounts?

Please do not comment just for the sake of it.



InnovateGuy
#4 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:46:55 AM
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Why are you using gmail accounts for official communication if you have a serious business? I may be wrong, but there is no way a company valued at $ 500,000 will lack a website and official e-mail address for that matter. Definitely, your valuation is wrong.
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muganda
#5 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:00:55 PM
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TNT wrote:
@ Muganda: Have you seen the company's books/audited accounts?

Please do not comment just for the sake of it.


@TNT touché, comment in good faith smile

Your post only said what one requires to put IN.
I figured someone with the money would be enticed to enquire if you also shared some numbers THEY would be interested in.

mkonomtupu
#6 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:09:53 PM
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Location: River Road
muganda wrote:
@TNT you do realise that you are valuing the company at over KShs 40m. Top of the head, your valuation means ideally:

* You should be generating at least KShs 6m after tax in profit, for a 7 year pay-back period.

* Or about KShs 8.5m profit before tax, with a revenue of about 42m annually (assuming CEO salary 1m, staff 1m monthly)

* And a fixed deal pipeline, down on contract, worth at least
21m annually, over 3 years, minimum of 3 clients
Leaving only 50% open to hustling, by a committed CEO with institutional memory.


Good speed...




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TNT
#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:25:14 PM
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muganda wrote:
TNT wrote:
@ Muganda: Have you seen the company's books/audited accounts?

Please do not comment just for the sake of it.


@TNT touché, comment in good faith smile

Your post only said what one requires to put IN.
I figured someone with the money would be enticed to enquire if you also shared some numbers THEY would be interested in.



If you are a potential investor, I'd be happy to schedule a meeting with you, at your convenience. During our meeting, I'll grant you unrestricted access to the business's books of account, which is about five years worth of financial data.

Until that time, you are speaking from a position of ignorance, unless of course, you've already seen the aforementioned data. Have you?
TNT
#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2014 12:27:33 PM
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InnovateGuy wrote:
Why are you using gmail accounts for official communication if you have a serious business? I may be wrong, but there is no way a company valued at $ 500,000 will lack a website and official e-mail address for that matter. Definitely, your valuation is wrong.


I'll ignore your first point for obvious reasons, but just to indulge you a little, the business has a website and uses MS Outlook as a backup email solution. However, you should be smart enough to realize that online presence (Website, Social Media, Pinterst, YouTube) is not necessary synonymous with legit.

On to your second point, what is the correct valuation, sir, and how have your arrived at that valuation, especially since you haven't even seen the business's balance sheet?

Please enlighten the Wazua community on the business's true valuation. Just ignore the fact that you lack the necessary financial data to value it, of course.
Horton
#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:03:54 PM
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Wacheni siasa.....if ur truly interested give the brother/sister (TNT)a holla. Stop poking holes when you don't have all the facts
TNT
#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 22, 2014 2:07:43 PM
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Horton wrote:
Wacheni siasa.....if ur truly interested give the brother/sister (TNT)a holla. Stop poking holes when you don't have all the facts


Thank you for your voice of reason. I appreciate it.
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