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Asbel Kiprop and 1500m world record.
Kusadikika
#1 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:00:40 AM
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I think the 1500metre world record will fall to Asbel Kiprop in the next 12 months. He is less than 2 seconds from it. He has ran 3:27:72 the record is 3:26:00. He is running great. The pressure of championships has diminished with the next major championship being in 2015 and then Olympics in 2016 so he can focus on the world record now. The record has stood for 15 years. He is 24, the same age as Hicham El Guerrouj when he broke it in 1998. He gets a good rabbit in one of those Diamond league meetings in cool Autumn weather and he can take it.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:09:16 AM
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Kusadikika wrote:
I think the 1500metre world record will fall to Asbel Kiprop in the next 12 months. He is less than 2 seconds from it. He has ran 3:27:72 the record is 3:26:00. He is running great. The pressure of championships has diminished with the next major championship being in 2015 and then Olympics in 2016 so he can focus on the world record now. The record has stood for 15 years. He is 24, the same age as Hicham El Guerrouj when he broke it in 1998. He gets a good rabbit in one of those Diamond league meetings in cool Autumn weather and he can take it.


Though he still sits at number four in the all-time fastest athletes on ths race I have to agree with you that if anybody will break any time soon, it will have to be Asbel Kiprop!!!!!
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:35:34 AM
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Most of the records set by the russians and morrocans/northafricans in the 80s and 90s will never be broken as doping was very rife.The womens 800 world record was set in 1983 even semenya tried and could not break it na yeye ni nusu nusu
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:42:32 AM
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madollar wrote:
Most of the records set by the russians and morrocans/northafricans in the 80s and 90s will never be broken as doping was very rife.The womens 800 world record was set in 1983 even semenya tried and could not break it na yeye ni nusu nusu


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#5 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:10:28 PM
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madollar wrote:
Most of the records set by the russians and morrocans/northafricans in the 80s and 90s will never be broken as doping was very rife.The womens 800 world record was set in 1983 even semenya tried and could not break it na yeye ni nusu nusu


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#6 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 3:24:21 PM
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Before a test for EPO was developed, Moroccans were amazingly dominant. They were winning gold medals all over the place. They were highly placed in the world cross country championships. They were winning city marathons. Setting records. Heck I remember a Moroccan breaking the steeplechase record before Shaheen broke it.

A test for EPO was validated in 2003 and less than a year later El Guerrouj retired at age 30. The 2004 Olympics was his last race.

OK I am not saying I am sure of anything but the dramatic decline of Moroccan athletics and its coincidence with EPO testing is suspect.

As for Kiprop breaking the record, I doubt it. 2 seconds is huge and Kiprop has never shown any appetite for records. He just wants to win. He seems to do the bare minimum it takes to win. he is not like Rudisha who wants to make a statement.
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 3:46:32 PM
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Alba wrote:
Before a test for EPO was developed, Moroccans were amazingly dominant. They were winning gold medals all over the place. They were highly placed in the world cross country championships. They were winning city marathons. Setting records. Heck I remember a Moroccan breaking the steeplechase record before Shaheen broke it.

A test for EPO was validated in 2003 and less than a year later El Guerrouj retired at age 30. The 2004 Olympics was his last race.

OK I am not saying I am sure of anything but the dramatic decline of Moroccan athletics and its coincidence with EPO testing is suspect.

As for Kiprop breaking the record, I doubt it. 2 seconds is huge and Kiprop has never shown any appetite for records. He just wants to win. He seems to do the bare minimum it takes to win. he is not like Rudisha who wants to make a statement.


Hiyo ya Morocco I agree!!!!
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:26:49 PM
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[quote=Alba]Before a test for EPO was developed, Moroccans were amazingly dominant. They were winning gold medals all over the place. They were highly placed in the world cross country championships. They were winning city marathons. Setting records. Heck I remember a Moroccan breaking the steeplechase record before Shaheen broke it.

A test for EPO was validated in 2003 and less than a year later El Guerrouj retired at age 30. The 2004 Olympics was his last race.

you are right remember rashid ramzi he was the only morrocan ever caught cheating although running for bahrain but spent his entire training period in morroco he could not resist the temptation of running in the beijing olympics after hearing the perks that the king of bahrain was giving for any gold medal in the 1500m final he demolished the field that included kiprop .a few months later he was banned.it looks like the morrocans shut down the "programme "after a method of catching cheats was deviced given that they have never won a medal since then...
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I was wondering what had happened to Morocco's prowess in mid-long distance races. I love wazuaApplause
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:04:09 PM
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Madollar

There are plenty of top tier Morroccans who have been busted besides Ramzi

There is Mariem Selsouli a medal contender (14;36 for the 5K) who was busted at London 2012
There is Amine Laalou, also a medal contender who was busted at London 2012
And of course Mohammed Mourhit who broke the steeplechase record before Shaheen was also busted for doping soon after he broke the record.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:24:44 PM
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Alba wrote:
Madollar

There are plenty of top tier Morroccans who have been busted besides Ramzi

There is Mariem Selsouli a medal contender (14;36 for the 5K) who was busted at London 2012
There is Amine Laalou, also a medal contender who was busted at London 2012
And of course Mohammed Mourhit who broke the steeplechase record before Shaheen was also busted for doping soon after he broke the record.

ramzi busting was all over the media given that he had won the gold medal in beijing kumbe their were so many others ...and what happened to goumri the marathoner i remember him winning big city marathons picking medals in major championships was he also busted..
Alba
#12 Posted : Tuesday, November 26, 2013 8:52:53 PM
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Pray for Asbel Kiprop as he had an accident. Thankfully he is well.

See link : http://kenyapage.net/athletics/
Alba
#13 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 4:16:13 AM
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He may be loosing interest in running. Now he is facing charges for assault. See link below:

http://kenyapage.net/com...ore-he-loses-his-career/
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#14 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 10:36:18 AM
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And he is a policeman just like Kemboi
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#15 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 12:23:42 PM
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I have no words if this is true. Maybe... UJINGA!!!
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#16 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 1:25:44 PM
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Buster wrote:
I have no words if this is true. Maybe... UJINGA!!!


It's not ujinga but lack of a good manager. The kenyan athlete thinks of a good manager as loss of 30% earnings, but these guys are mentor, father, disciplinarian, accountant all rolled into one. Look for the movie 'Jerry Maguire' to appreciate managers/agents. Just imagine where Henry Rono, Samuel Wanjiru would have been in our annals of history. Those that got good managers - Tergat, Wakihuri are legends.

Talking of Morrocan runners, I believe the greatest was/is Nawal el Moutawakel who won gold in the 1984 Olympics. She helped break many barriers in the conservative Muslim world.
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#17 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2014 6:10:17 PM
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i remember Khalid Scar blocking Chelimo at the finish line in Barcelona 92.

another morrocan whose name cant remember just overtook Nixon Kiprotich as he crossed the line

those two instances! leave a taste of sand in the mouth
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#19 Posted : Thursday, May 03, 2018 10:36:17 AM
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Could be Catha edulis otherwise known as Miraa
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#20 Posted : Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:33:57 AM
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Buster wrote:
I have no words if this is true. Maybe... UJINGA!!!


Sad. It could be lack of discipline. And doing silly little things that he shouldn't like drinking coke
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