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OAR polaring Kenyans - of land and plots to rig elections
ecstacy
#1 Posted : Monday, February 04, 2013 11:11:22 PM
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1. OAR has alleged of a plot by their competitors to rig the election early using the CCK.

ref - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5Pp3AogPQ8

If he has any evidence of the above, why not present it to the authorities?

2. What is the intention of OAR in repeatedly bringing up the land issue telling Mr Kenyatta to return 'stolen' land, the 'size of Nyanza' - other than maybe stock tensions between two communities perceived to be supporting the Jubilee candidate? (communities that have always had a history of pre/post election violence ever since the advent of muliti-partyism)

Kenyans, him having been a Principal in the Grand Coalition government, shouldn't we be demanding answers from the Prime Minister as to why he has not been at the forefront of implementing the Land Reforms as part of Agenda 4 instead of him attacking Mr Kenyatta as an individual?

Vote wisely.
harrydre
#2 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:43:58 AM
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hopefully Kenyans will remain peaceful
i.am.back!!!!
ecstacy
#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:11:42 PM
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harrydre wrote:
hopefully Kenyans will remain peaceful

71% of Kenyans according to Ipsos Synovate believe the election will be peaceful in their domicile. Let no one mess this up.

One quick note, wasn't the Lands Ministry also handed to the ODM wing of the coalition government? Run by one Mr James Orengo.

Combined, can the PM and his lieutenant pls inform us how far they have progressed Land Reform as part of Agenda 4.
bigbossman
#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:22:57 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
harrydre wrote:
hopefully Kenyans will remain peaceful

71% of Kenyans according to Ipsos Synovate believe the election will be peaceful in their domicile. Let no one mess this up.

One quick note, wasn't the Lands Ministry also handed to the ODM wing of the coalition government? Run by one Mr James Orengo.

Combined, can the PM and his lieutenant pls inform us how far they have progressed Land Reform as part of Agenda 4.

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LIFE IS SO GOOD
mawinder
#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:37:09 PM
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Joined: 4/30/2008
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ecstacy wrote:
harrydre wrote:
hopefully Kenyans will remain peaceful

71% of Kenyans according to Ipsos Synovate believe the election will be peaceful in their domicile. Let no one mess this up.

One quick note, wasn't the Lands Ministry also handed to the ODM wing of the coalition government? Run by one Mr James Orengo.

Combined, can the PM and his lieutenant pls inform us how far they have progressed Land Reform as part of Agenda 4.

Buying 500k suits,mikeka,choo,who gets to invite Kibaki to speak etc is all the raila brigade did.
Jump-steady
#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:46:44 PM
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Something is not going right with Oar. Even his body language has changed. I wish he gives some 'tendawili' oftenly. The propaganda about Land reeks of desperation.
maka
#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 2:43:22 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
1. OAR has alleged of a plot by their competitors to rig the election early using the CCK.

ref - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5Pp3AogPQ8

If he has any evidence of the above, why not present it to the authorities?

2. What is the intention of OAR in repeatedly bringing up the land issue telling Mr Kenyatta to return 'stolen' land, the 'size of Nyanza' - other than maybe stock tensions between two communities perceived to be supporting the Jubilee candidate? (communities that have always had a history of pre/post election violence ever since the advent of muliti-partyism)

Kenyans, him having been a Principal in the Grand Coalition government, shouldn't we be demanding answers from the Prime Minister as to why he has not been at the forefront of implementing the Land Reforms as part of Agenda 4 instead of him attacking Mr Kenyatta as an individual?

Vote wisely.

I do not see why someone
should have 300, 000 acres. It is
obscene. In fact if this guys don’t
know under Article 61 all land in
Kenya belongs to the people of
Kenya collectively as a Nation and
land is supposed to be used in a
manner that is equitable, efficient,
productive and sustainable.
In rural India, a committee of rural
development ministry on agrarian
land reforms has recommended that
the ceiling imposed on irrigated
lands should be 15-20 hectares and
holdings of non-irrigated lands
should be limited to 10-15 hectares.
To even compound matter that
committee has recommended that
the ceiling limits should be
implemented with retrospective
effect.
Further the panel, headed by the
Union rural development minister,
has also demanded that right to
homestead land and a house should
be enshrined as minimum rights for
the landless. A minimum of 10-15%
of land should be provided for the
landless and homeless in a time-
bound manner with the titles of the
land being made in the name of
women, it suggested. We need
those kind of reforms here.
possunt quia posse videntur
KulaRaha
#8 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 2:51:02 PM
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Joined: 7/26/2007
Posts: 6,514
mawinder wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
harrydre wrote:
hopefully Kenyans will remain peaceful

71% of Kenyans according to Ipsos Synovate believe the election will be peaceful in their domicile. Let no one mess this up.

One quick note, wasn't the Lands Ministry also handed to the ODM wing of the coalition government? Run by one Mr James Orengo.

Combined, can the PM and his lieutenant pls inform us how far they have progressed Land Reform as part of Agenda 4.

Buying 500k suits,mikeka,choo,who gets to invite Kibaki to speak etc is all the raila brigade did.


WELL SAID! And now he pretends to be a reformer, bure kabisa!
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
mukiha
#9 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 2:52:12 PM
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Joined: 6/27/2008
Posts: 4,114
xx@#$%^&*()_+!@
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
mukiha
#10 Posted : Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:02:33 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/27/2008
Posts: 4,114
maka wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
1. OAR has alleged of a plot by their competitors to rig the election early using the CCK.

ref - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5Pp3AogPQ8

If he has any evidence of the above, why not present it to the authorities?

2. What is the intention of OAR in repeatedly bringing up the land issue telling Mr Kenyatta to return 'stolen' land, the 'size of Nyanza' - other than maybe stock tensions between two communities perceived to be supporting the Jubilee candidate? (communities that have always had a history of pre/post election violence ever since the advent of muliti-partyism)

Kenyans, him having been a Principal in the Grand Coalition government, shouldn't we be demanding answers from the Prime Minister as to why he has not been at the forefront of implementing the Land Reforms as part of Agenda 4 instead of him attacking Mr Kenyatta as an individual?

Vote wisely.

I do not see why someone
should have 300, 000 acres. It is
obscene. In fact if this guys don’t
know under Article 61 all land in
Kenya belongs to the people of
Kenya collectively as a Nation and
land is supposed to be used in a
manner that is equitable, efficient,
productive and sustainable.
In rural India, a committee of rural
development ministry on agrarian
land reforms has recommended that
the ceiling imposed on irrigated
lands should be 15-20 hectares and
holdings of non-irrigated lands
should be limited to 10-15 hectares.
To even compound matter that
committee has recommended that
the ceiling limits should be
implemented with retrospective
effect.
Further the panel, headed by the
Union rural development minister,
has also demanded that right to
homestead land and a house should
be enshrined as minimum rights for
the landless. A minimum of 10-15%
of land should be provided for the
landless and homeless in a time-
bound manner with the titles of the
land being made in the name of
women, it suggested. We need
those kind of reforms here.



Mukiha Ltd is steadily acquiring KQ shares; "soon" I will be owning about 50% of the company...then you will stand up and scream that "one person should note own" such a large chunk of a national asset....
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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