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While we focus on tribes...what are the issues?
KulaRaha
#1 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 10:17:49 AM
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As we continue wasting time and energy focussing on tribal coalitions (I am also guilty here), perhaps we should also look at issues that need addressing. I for one, would like my new President to tackle:

1. Corruption: this is getting out of hand, and would love to see some big fish go down;

2. GOK expenditure: Bloated civil service that does not even deliver basic services needs trimming fast;

3. Nairobi City Council: that this beast be tamed, and made into a productive animal?
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Mo
#2 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 10:43:59 AM
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4. youth unemployment - you can't have a country where the 50% most productive guys are idle! this is a ticking time bomb

5. Insecurity - stemming partly from 4 above and immigration laws enforcement gone south (read kenya police)
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2012
#3 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 11:15:45 AM
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I think it's given that we will vote ethnically in this coming elections.

That said I thin people should with their heads for the Governors as these are the county CEOs. I think the Nairobi Governor should address these issues in the first term, I would if I had the money to run and I'm pushing them to Jimnah (the person I think can best implement).

1. Address transport (Roads, railway, parking, mikokoteni, bikes, get rid of 14 seaters and enforce discipline)

2. Environment. Get rid of all plastic packaging and polythene paper bags in one year (controversial but must to be done!)

3. Security (We all know the problems here)

4. End harassment of legitimate businesses.

BBI will solve it
:)
ZZE123
#4 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 11:18:53 AM
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6. IDP Resettlement – that we still have people living in IDP camps 5 years latter is sickening

7. Land issues – Why is a title deed just a piece of paper and why can’t I own land in some parts of this country since I come from a certain tribe?
The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
TiggerTiggy
#5 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 11:36:09 AM
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CORD is proposing to tax idle land, which is all well and good if one is hoarding hundreds if not thousands of acres of idle land. however, what about we the middle class who own a small plot or two, which we intend to bequeath our kids or develop when interest rates come down or when the area opens up? middle class we had better pay attention to the manifestoes by the various parties. rink today' star headline.
also, RAO said he will go after stolen public property, which is all well and good. if anyone here owns an apartment in kileleleshwa, you may have reason to be worried as the land probably once belonged to the Govt, some big shot then grabbed/bought at throw away price, and sold to a developer who then put up the many apartment blocks there. the conduit company was then de-registered at registrar of companies. so come march 5 2013 and you may just see a big tinga tinga outside your apartment block.
Mukiri
#6 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 11:37:35 AM
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CORRUPTION, CORRUPTION, CORRUPTION!
Be it Sexual corruption, Moral Corruption, Financial Corruption, Corruption in our learning institutions, in our hospitals, by police etc, Spiritual corruption.

Corruption is a cancer, its eats away and before one realizes it has even you in a death bed.

Proverbs 19:21
TiggerTiggy
#7 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 11:48:19 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
..Be it Sexual corruption...

huh? care to elaborate?
FundamentAli
#8 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 11:55:01 AM
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TiggerTiggy wrote:
RAO said he will go after stolen public property, which is all well and good. if anyone here owns an apartment in kileleleshwa, you may have reason to be worried as the land probably once belonged to the Govt, some big shot then grabbed/bought at throw away price, and sold to a developer who then put up the many apartment blocks there. the conduit company was then de-registered at registrar of companies. so come march 5 2013 and you may just see a big tinga tinga outside your apartment block.

@Tiggy
Kileleshwa was not public land. Kenya Post & Telecommunication could not pay retrenched workers and therefore transferred some of their land to the KPTC Pension scheme in lieu of cash to offset accrued debts. It is a similar story unfolding at Kenya Railways, happening at the moment. Is now right and then wrong?
KulaRaha
#9 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 12:03:35 PM
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Good to see issues coming out thick and fast...

I also think we should vote for Governors with some level of thought, beyond just tribal bias. These are the people who will count.
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TiggerTiggy
#10 Posted : Monday, December 10, 2012 12:04:30 PM
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@FundamentAli i hear you, not the whole of kille will be affected. but i do know that over 100 former GOK houses (with huge compounds) were dished out/sold to the politically connected during baba's time. if you bought a flat put up on such land, then you may be in trouble. i have a colle mate who'se folks were GOK senior staff, and the house they lived in is now a huge apartment complex. i think ndungu report talks of these plots
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