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B.Timer
#1 Posted : Thursday, December 06, 2012 11:31:23 AM
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Let’s face it Mudavadi is the candidate to be pushed by Uhurutu . Granted he isn’t a polarizing personality and as such he stands a better chance.

It should not be lost on us that Uhuruto agenda N. 1 is to avoid ICC and any other meaningful legal process over PEV crimes.

They can only trust Mudavadi so much. There is little guarantee that a year into his presidency he will continue to shield them from ICC, in the face of the expected international pressure to him.

Trouble is neither of Uhuruto can marshal the votes to win the presidency by themselves. So they have to win it by proxy. This is where Mudavadi comes in. But then - only as a stop gap measure, – I know not!

That said, let’s scratch the surface of what Mudavadi Ruto ticket portends, if they were to win.

Before we go there, some few home truths;

It is common knowledge that one of the DPMs holds sway and immense influence in Govt including security structures.

In the first few days of presidency, the security systems inherited are of different loyalty.

We are in a new Constitutional dispensation where if the President is incapacitated, then the Deputy president takes over for the remainder of the term in this case till 2017.
The Deputy president would be Ruto.

Is there a chance that President Mudavadi could get incapacitated shortly after being sworn in!

Is it something to worry about or is this reading too much!
Dunia ni msongamano..
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mnandii
#2 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 1:45:22 PM
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B.Timer wrote:

Trouble is neither of Uhuruto can marshal the votes to win the presidency by themselves. So they have to win it by proxy. This is where Mudavadi comes in. But then - only as a stop gap measure, – I know not!


A win by proxy: Do not let others fight your war. Nicollo Machiavelli in THE PRINCE.

Madvd, if hoisted to the throne by Uhuruto will be very distrustful of their patronage and as such will seek to destroy the pair.
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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mnandii
#3 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 1:48:53 PM
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B.Timer wrote:


We are in a new Constitutional dispensation where if the President is incapacitated, then the Deputy president takes over for the remainder of the term in this case till 2017.
The Deputy president would be Ruto.

Is there a chance that President Mudavadi could get incapacitated shortly after being sworn in!

Is it something to worry about or is this reading too much!

Think
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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McReggae
#4 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 1:53:16 PM
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He can't destroy the pair yet he does not control the security apparatus, that is where his balls will be tied my friend.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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mkeiyd
#5 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:03:29 PM
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McReggae wrote:
He can't destroy the pair yet he does not control the security apparatus, that is where his balls will be tied my friend.


I would think one year into Mdvd's reign,he'll have adjusted accordingly.
Come the second year and pressure from business community,trade unions and an energized opposition,the two could easily be thrown under the bus.
But then again, what do i know?
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tycho
#6 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:16:00 PM
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The presidency is wide open then, for anyone who can secure the Hague suspects.

So far, neither Cord nor Jubilee can meet this demand.

Can PK or Martha capitalize?
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Elder
#7 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:22:06 PM
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B.Timer wrote:
Let’s face it Mudavadi is the candidate to be pushed by Uhurutu . Granted he isn’t a polarizing personality and as such he stands a better chance.

It should not be lost on us that Uhuruto agenda N. 1 is to avoid ICC and any other meaningful legal process over PEV crimes.

They can only trust Mudavadi so much. There is little guarantee that a year into his presidency he will continue to shield them from ICC, in the face of the expected international pressure to him.

Trouble is neither of Uhuruto can marshal the votes to win the presidency by themselves. So they have to win it by proxy. This is where Mudavadi comes in. But then - only as a stop gap measure, – I know not!

That said, let’s scratch the surface of what Mudavadi Ruto ticket portends, if they were to win.

Before we go there, some few home truths;

It is common knowledge that one of the DPMs holds sway and immense influence in Govt including security structures.

In the first few days of presidency, the security systems inherited are of different loyalty.

We are in a new Constitutional dispensation where if the President is incapacitated, then the Deputy president takes over for the remainder of the term in this case till 2017.
The Deputy president would be Ruto.

Is there a chance that President Mudavadi could get incapacitated shortly after being sworn in!

Is it something to worry about or is this reading too much!

Treason.
He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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#8 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:49:07 PM
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B.Timer wrote:
Is there a chance that President Mudavadi could get incapacitated shortly after being sworn in!


If Mudavadi makes it then he'll be the one calling the shots. Never underestimate a president when his on the throne. Remember when Mzee Kenyatta passed on and the powers that were then installed an uneducated weakling called Moi who was to be a push-over?

BBI will solve it :)
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B.Timer
#9 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:51:40 PM
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mkeiyd wrote:
McReggae wrote:
He can't destroy the pair yet he does not control the security apparatus, that is where his balls will be tied my friend.


I would think one year into Mdvd's reign,he'll have adjusted accordingly.
Come the second year and pressure from business community,trade unions and an energized opposition,the two could easily be thrown under the bus.
But then again, what do i know?



The hypothesis presupposes things could happen not too long after swearing!

The outridders, the limo driver, aide de corp, the State house secuerity, cooks etc are passed to the entrant.
There could be infiltration.
Dunia ni msongamano..
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B.Timer
#10 Posted : Thursday, December 13, 2012 3:00:35 PM
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Elder wrote:
B.Timer wrote:
Let’s face it Mudavadi is the candidate to be pushed by Uhurutu . Granted he isn’t a polarizing personality and as such he stands a better chance.

It should not be lost on us that Uhuruto agenda N. 1 is to avoid ICC and any other meaningful legal process over PEV crimes.

They can only trust Mudavadi so much. There is little guarantee that a year into his presidency he will continue to shield them from ICC, in the face of the expected international pressure to him.

Trouble is neither of Uhuruto can marshal the votes to win the presidency by themselves. So they have to win it by proxy. This is where Mudavadi comes in. But then - only as a stop gap measure, – I know not!

That said, let’s scratch the surface of what Mudavadi Ruto ticket portends, if they were to win.

Before we go there, some few home truths;

It is common knowledge that one of the DPMs holds sway and immense influence in Govt including security structures.

In the first few days of presidency, the security systems inherited are of different loyalty.

We are in a new Constitutional dispensation where if the President is incapacitated, then the Deputy president takes over for the remainder of the term in this case till 2017.
The Deputy president would be Ruto.

Is there a chance that President Mudavadi could get incapacitated shortly after being sworn in!

Is it something to worry about or is this reading too much!

Treason.



You are a student of Njonjo's, he of the 70's.

Lots of water has gone under the bridge since!

That not withstanding, though nominaly a cabinet fellow, Mudavadi is no President.

Free to have some thought
Dunia ni msongamano..
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