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nostoppingthis
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:59:40 AM
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YesuWangu
#2 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:58:46 AM
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marshalliah
#3 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:21:59 AM
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Witness OTP-11 asserts that Mr Kenyatta gave Sh3.3 million to a former MP and that part of this money was eventually used to buy
guns for the attack in Nakuru. The witness further states that the former MP coordinated attacks in Nakuru under the direction of Mr
Kenyatta,” the judges said.

If there were guns, perhaps people woould not have used stones to fight. There would have been a massacre. Hii ni movie, and ocampo is trying to be the sterling
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Jump-steady
#4 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:18:04 PM
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d'oh! d'oh! These revenge attacks must have been very costly. The revenging community had to be paid to revenge for attacks that had already been carried on them while the aggressors are only too willing to fight without much of monetary inducements because for them it was like a Jihad Pray Pray
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limanika
#5 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:45:26 PM
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Those who started the war bear the greatest responsibility. Those who organised revenge attacks were provoked and hence do not bear the greatest responsibility for the violence. However, as there is a lot of polarity in Kenya, ICC knows that punishing one side and setting the other free is recipe for kales. Again setting all of them free is like giving licence for similar crimes in future. That tells you the four suspects are in for a rough time. If that is the price Kenya hass to pay for posterity, so be it. Let’s grow up and move on.
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Kihangeri
#6 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:49:54 PM
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limanika wrote:
Those who started the war bear the greatest responsibility. Those who organised revenge attacks were provoked and hence do not bear the greatest responsibility for the violence. However, as there is a lot of polarity in Kenya, ICC knows that punishing one side and setting the other free is recipe for kales. Again setting all of them free is like giving licence for similar crimes in future. That tells you the four suspects are in for a rough time. If that is the price Kenya hass to pay for posterity, so be it. Let’s grow up and move on.


That is a fresh angle you have right there.
By inference, the man is all that Mr Phantom is not: an untrustworthy radical, divisive, too many enemies, a dictator, and a persistent liar...
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FundamentAli
#7 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:02:50 PM
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limanika wrote:
Those who started the war bear the greatest responsibility. Those who organised revenge attacks were provoked and hence do not bear the greatest responsibility for the violence. However, as there is a lot of polarity in Kenya, ICC knows that punishing one side and setting the other free is recipe for kales. Again setting all of them free is like giving licence for similar crimes in future. That tells you the four suspects are in for a rough time. If that is the price Kenya hass to pay for posterity, so be it. Let’s grow up and move on.


Sounds more like 'balanced' justice. The fact that the ruling of case 1 was pushed to be read with that of case 2 goes to support this theory. Unfortunately for something to be admitted at ICC, there has to be some grand allegations. Even at the current level not all judges concurred that it is a matter of that court.
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masukuma
#8 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:07:27 PM
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marshalliah wrote:
Witness OTP-11 asserts that Mr Kenyatta gave Sh3.3 million to a former MP and that part of this money was eventually used to buy
guns for the attack in Nakuru. The witness further states that the former MP coordinated attacks in Nakuru under the direction of Mr
Kenyatta,” the judges said.

If there were guns, perhaps people woould not have used stones to fight. There would have been a massacre. Hii ni movie, and ocampo is trying to be the sterling


What Guns? the only people who had guns in Nakuru were
1- the police who told people - si mulisema kazi iendelee?
2- the army that actually stopped retaliatory killings in areas like Lanet and Freearea.
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masukuma
#9 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2012 3:11:32 PM
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When this idiot Ocampo is busy concentrating on one side - I ask, who will give Justice to the constituents of Kibera who lost their property and lives and some had to camp on the show ground?
WE SHALL NEVER FORGET! NO MATTER HOW HARD PEOPLE TRY TO DISTORT HISTORY.
http://kenyangenocide.bl...out-kenyan-genocide.html
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Drunkard
#10 Posted : Thursday, January 26, 2012 4:54:45 PM
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limanika wrote:
Those who started the war bear the greatest responsibility. Those who organised revenge attacks were provoked and hence do not bear the greatest responsibility for the violence. However, as there is a lot of polarity in Kenya, ICC knows that punishing one side and setting the other free is recipe for kales. Again setting all of them free is like giving licence for similar crimes in future. That tells you the four suspects are in for a rough time. If that is the price Kenya hass to pay for posterity, so be it. Let’s grow up and move on.



I think it is important that if we've never really thought through we shouldn't post anything, I understand your line of defense but unfortunately it doesn't work like that, revenge attack could even carry more weight that initial attack, because while the person who started the fight can claim that they snapped and attack without any planning or any sort of calculations those who revenge actually cannot employ this kind of defence because revenge take time to execute and obviously you have time to think through the consequence.
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