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will tribalism ever end in kenya?
'user'
#1 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:51:49 PM
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I have just noted mohammed kuti has appointed ibrahim haji as kenya meat commission md. does this raise any eyebrow?kibunja.ministers are just giving their tribesmen jobs
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:04:18 AM
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it will take thousands of years. not unless a law is passed to make marrying from one's tribe illegal. as with racism in the west, it's a difficult vice to kill
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Sure
#3 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:49:57 AM
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'user' wrote:
I have just noted mohammed kuti has appointed ibrahim haji as kenya meat commission md. does this raise any eyebrow?kibunja.ministers are just giving their tribesmen jobs


The only time it will end is when you start by ending tribalism in your heart, I follow suit and it becomes infectious. But before that, Kibaki and Raila have to stop consulting over which clansman, tribesman or friend should take over what. That is when tribalism will be dealt a death blow.

Note: Kibaki does not favour Kikuyus, he favours Kikuyu elite, Meru elite, Embu elite, Kamba elite.

Raila favours his close relatives and Luo elite.

Who is more tribal? None, they are both into chronism.

Lets say you are a Luo, has he assisted you or your uncle get a job in the government? Assume you are a Kikuyu, have you seen Kibaki give a government Job to a Meru while you are left out or your over qualified uncle goes for ten years without a job? Think.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:52:02 AM
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Sure wrote:

Raila favours his close relatives and Luo elite.

Who is more tribal? None, they are both into chronism.

Lets say you are a Luo, has he assisted you or your uncle get a job in the government? Assume you are a Kikuyu, have you seen Kibaki give a government Job to a Meru while you are left out or your over qualified uncle goes for ten years without a job? Think.


Good point. How did Raila's sister get a Job in KR?

The chairperson of the Board of Trustees of the Kenya Railways Staff Retirement Benefits Scheme is set to appear in court to answer charges of unlawful acquisition of public property.

Beryl Okumu Odinga failed to appear in court alongside three others charged with abuse of office and wilful failure to comply with the law.

Senior principle magistrate Lucy Nyambura issued the summons Tuesday following a request from state counsel Daniel Karori after Ms Odinga, who is Prime Minister Raila Odinga’s sister, failed to present herself to court.

We need to expose Kibaki also. Has he got sisters and brothers in high office, like the chairperson of NCBK.
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TAZ
#5 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 12:20:22 PM
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Strange
sihingwa
#6 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:08:45 PM
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Strange


@ Taz nothing strange ...think if you were in the shoes of Rao or Baks, would you leave your kin at to fend for themselves ?

Put in another way...when you were a prefect some 30 years ago, did'nt you favour your siblings in school?

Or, you are a HOD where u r employed and are looking for graduate trainees, would'nt you push for your niece to get through ?

What am driving at is that all this favorism / nepotism / cronyism / tribalism /clanism and other bad 'isms' are inborn or learnt.
'user'
#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:32:28 PM
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sihingwa wrote:
TAZ wrote:
Strange


@ Taz nothing strange ...think if you were in the shoes of Rao or Baks, would you leave your kin at to fend for themselves ?

Put in another way...when you were a prefect some 30 years ago, did'nt you favour your siblings in school?

Or, you are a HOD where u r employed and are looking for graduate trainees, would'nt you push for your niece to get through ?

What am driving at is that all this favorism / nepotism / cronyism / tribalism /clanism and other bad 'isms' are inborn or learnt.

Do they do the same in other countries or this is in Kenyan genes?

Those who have widely travelled?
2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
sihingwa
#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:48:20 PM
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Those who have widely travelled in google like me;
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 5:38:15 PM
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There are various factors to consider in this issue as follows;

You appoint someone who will ensure that you get the tender to supply packaging material, diaries calenders T-shirts and then invoice at inflated prices etc.

Also, like happens with so many people, when one son/daughter from a locality gets into an able position, all relatives neighbours and friends go for financial assistance etc.
Some cases are usually genuine and since you can't go dishing out money everytime you find a permanent solution which is getting your neighbour, friend's son or relative a job.
Being January pple who travelled to the villages over holidays came back with requests of ukisikia job here is my CV.
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:25:56 PM
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when political elitism and favoritism starts rotting from the head and the head falls off, that would be a good start. even a patriotic transplant would not help, the numbers are too many.
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