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US CREDIT RATING DOWNGRADED!!!.....WHAT NEXT????
Kaigangio
#1 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 5:36:21 PM
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hi all,

i have been trying to understand the US debt crisis that culminated in a an "amicable" solution?...to me that was neither here nor there as this was expected and only served to postponed a much bigger financial turbulence shortly ahead...the debt crisis seems to have been a distraction!!...prior to then the US was literally broke and printing of more money would not do....so only two options were available...to raise the debt ceiling to finance their superfluous spending or to let the dollar clash on a free fall...the logical route prevailed...

now one monster (debt crisis) out through the window and another one (credit rating) in through the door...the way i understand it is that the respected globally recognised credit rating agency Standard & Poor’s downgraded the US's credit rating because the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, would be necessary to stabilize the government’s medium-term debt burden...meaning the US is fast declining in her ability to repay debts....whew!!!

the action by S&P seems to be a major indicator of the real debt situation by the US and have very far reaching market repercusions...the time is very close indeed when the large US creditors will nolonger be interested in buying into her treasuries sending the dollar to its abbys and the real long painful financial mayheim will have been set in motion...it seems the debt downgrading is just but a prelude...don't say you were not warned...


...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
hisah
#2 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 6:13:42 PM
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It is called extend and pretend policy... The road sign for the eurozone and US debt crisis points one way - default even if it takes centuries!

How the CBs i.e. US Fed bank and ECB have been able to buy their own bonds and everybody still participates in this financial system, means we've all just lost our minds...! Sad d'oh!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
GGK
#3 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 6:15:05 PM
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@Kaigangio, We are stuck with the dollar for a long time. They will just print more green bucks....what will the world do?

America has been the source of all major financial crises and will continue to be so for the next few years.

Am not economically savvy and I think S&P may be wrong but I don't think the prospects are good.

"..I am because we are. "― Ubuntu, Umtu,
Drunkard
#4 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 6:19:34 PM
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.... and there is nothing more scary than the fact that, there seems to be nothing saver than the US Treasuries, Despite the downgrade of U.S. debt, Treasury prices rose,this morning, pushing yields lower!
Mainat
#5 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 6:28:27 PM
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Have you ever been running at speed then you realise you are coming up to a brick wall? You know there is going to be serious pain and your choice is only which part of your bod will take the impact. The Euro-zone members are almost there with some of their periphery economies. Over the next 1yr, some like Greece, Portugal will be told something along the lines “it’s not you, it’s us”, as they bid are goodbye out of the Euro. USA’s luck is that the Chinese hold $1trn and it’s now their problem rather than the USA’s. That is, there is no way, the Chinese can sell their $ holdings without causing themselves serious pain.
Sehemu ndio nyumba
kizee1
#6 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 7:00:27 PM
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just read that mauriritius is diversifying its reserves reducing USD and EUR exposure to COMMODITY CCYS AND SCANDIES...theyr also lukin to buy yuan SA and indian bonds...the USD is loosing its shine...problem is the world cant totally diversify from the USD CATCH 22
Drunkard
#7 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 8:17:35 PM
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kizee1 wrote:
just read that mauriritius is diversifying its reserves reducing USD and EUR exposure to COMMODITY CCYS AND SCANDIES...theyr also lukin to buy yuan SA and indian bonds...the USD is loosing its shine...problem is the world cant totally diversify from the USD CATCH 22


Mauritius? why would anyone cares what Mauritious is doing?
hisah
#8 Posted : Monday, August 08, 2011 8:25:33 PM
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Drunkard wrote:
kizee1 wrote:
just read that mauriritius is diversifying its reserves reducing USD and EUR exposure to COMMODITY CCYS AND SCANDIES...theyr also lukin to buy yuan SA and indian bonds...the USD is loosing its shine...problem is the world cant totally diversify from the USD CATCH 22


Mauritius? why would anyone cares what Mauritious is doing?

Nobody gave a hoot when a food hawker snuffed out his life in Tunisia until Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Yemen and many more yet to tank gubberments were rocked by stack reality...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
savant
#9 Posted : Tuesday, August 09, 2011 5:07:40 AM
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I’m no financial whizz kid, but this guy’s argument sounds plausible to me...

While the US’s ability to pay its debt is in doubt, it also controls the currency in which it pays that debt, making it unlikely that the country will be forced into nonpayment. S&P has acknowledged the same. Consequently, despite concerns over it’s downgrade , the US will be able to repay the money it borrows. That repayment may come in devalued dollars, but it will come. (Seth Setrakian of First New York Securities)
Généralement, les gens qui savant peu parlent becoup, et les gens qui savant beaucoup parlent peu.
- Rousseau.
Kaigangio
#10 Posted : Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:22:05 AM
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Mainat wrote:
Have you ever been running at speed then you realise you are coming up to a brick wall? You know there is going to be serious pain and your choice is only which part of your bod will take the impact. The Euro-zone members are almost there with some of their periphery economies. Over the next 1yr, some like Greece, Portugal will be told something along the lines “it’s not you, it’s us”, as they bid are goodbye out of the Euro. USA’s luck is that the Chinese hold $1trn and it’s now their problem rather than the USA’s. That is, there is no way, the Chinese can sell their $ holdings without causing themselves serious pain.


you are right, but the financial relationship between the US and China might not last long...There will of course, be a breaking point, and we could be on our way to there. China, Russia, France and a host of other nations held a secret meeting sometime back to decide on a new world reserve currency or at least to eliminate the US dollar as the sole reserve currency of the world...this is not good news at all...
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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