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Kidnapped !!!
dasany
#1 Posted : Monday, September 07, 2009 6:16:00 AM
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My kid brother was kidnapped on Saturday and we had no clue where he was. On Sunday morning 6am,my folks another brother and I went all over town to all police stations just to check if probably he’d been held – central,Kamukinji,Kileleshwa,Pangani but no luck.



When we were leaving Pangani thinking of plan B,my dad gets the dreaded text message – 'we have your son,……want 500,000 in old notes deadline Friday - Play clean,we play clean……we will call you on Friday'



I won’t go into all the drama we went through from shock,confusion,tears and all.



We have a Flying Squad Officer who together with the Mobile Service Provider are trying to trace the location of the number used and says its takes 3 – 4 days and in any case they move up and down to make the trace harder and switch off the line once they send the text message and in any case,when they call on Friday,they will use another number.



Last evening,my dad send a text to that number try to re-negotiate – just to let them know he received the text but they have not replied as yet and to keep communication going as it is the only link to my bother.



We are in a state of panic.



Was just wondering if any Skerian has heard or known anyone who has experienced such and how they dealt with it. I would appreciate your advice.










Pretty
#2 Posted : Monday, September 07, 2009 6:36:00 AM
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@Dasany
• Unless am misguided,this is such an open forum you would want to be vague
• The kidnappers might be reading your post
• We got the message
• Remove most of the data that can identify you or your brother
• Then,lets hope tough thinkers on this blog will put their ideas together.
• However,remember,we are in an open field where the kidnappers may end up giving you suggestions hapa hapa.
• All in all,involve the experts who have dealt with kidnappings before
• Local police are usually as good as s**t coated with icing sugar
• I cry for you dasany


Stay young,keep your wheels in motion.
>>>>>>
A thing of beauty is a joy for ever:
Its loveliness increases;
It will never pass into nothingness;
But still will keep a bower quiet for us,
and a sleep full of sweet dreams,
and health, and quiet breathing. - Keats

>>>>>>>In life,there are three classes of people,
1. Those who make things happen,
2. Those who watch things happen
3. And those who ask what happened.

Where do you fall?
Djinn
#3 Posted : Monday, September 07, 2009 6:50:00 AM
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@dasany,like pretty has said - be vague - rephrase it as hypothetical...all the best - our prayers are with you...

The problem with equality is that we desire that it be with those that have more than us rather that those that have less
Pretty
#4 Posted : Monday, September 07, 2009 9:08:00 AM
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@Dasany


• Don’t lose hope
• But be very cautious
• Come up with Plan A,B,and C

Here is plan A,


• Go to either a Nation,Star or Standard Senior Crime reporter.
• Give them the story but ensure they won’t leak it out before your bro is found
• These reporters have contacts of some reliable officers in the police force who have dealt with such crime before with success.
• Once the police officers know the media is watching,they will put their best foot forward
• Kidnappers at times work with the police
• The last time I was kidnapped,my dad reported to the police
• When he was talking to the OCPD,the Kidnappers called my dad to say they knew he was talking to the OCPD.
• The OCPD most likely was in the deal. Who doesn’t know the police are actually some of the worst crime perpetrators.
• Due to such risk,come up with a fall back plan and call it plan B. Am working on it right now but don’t let it be the last option. In the meantime,agree to pay the guys but don’t actually do it unless this is treated money aimed at getting the kidnappers.


Stay young,keep your wheels in motion.
>>>>>>
A thing of beauty is a joy for ever:
Its loveliness increases;
It will never pass into nothingness;
But still will keep a bower quiet for us,
and a sleep full of sweet dreams,
and health, and quiet breathing. - Keats

>>>>>>>In life,there are three classes of people,
1. Those who make things happen,
2. Those who watch things happen
3. And those who ask what happened.

Where do you fall?
Mpenzi
#5 Posted : Monday, September 07, 2009 9:35:00 AM
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Pretty


What do you mean 'the last time i was kidnapped'? and how many times have you been kidnapped?
wangu.n
#6 Posted : Monday, September 07, 2009 9:54:00 AM
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i missed ur post but all i can say is good luck with findin ur bro. il say a little prayer for u.

Now out of curiosity how many times have u been kidnapped? @ pretty

You have a right to your opinion.
Allow me mine!
simonkabz
#7 Posted : Monday, September 07, 2009 10:05:00 AM
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@pretty,ebu come out clear. And how did u guys knw its dasany's bro who's been kidnapped?

The only reason why some people are still alive is coz its illegal to shoot them!!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
Mpenzi
#8 Posted : Monday, September 07, 2009 10:07:00 AM
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@simonkabz
seems the post was edited for security reasons - so just assume somebody's brother or sister has been kidnapped like we are all assuming.
Wendz
#9 Posted : Monday, September 07, 2009 10:24:00 AM
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Hey,wapi @Kinyee - now here she would be of great help. Gosh,these kidnappings are so many... anyone with contacts that @dasany can send an sms to for help? eg,a police officer - well,they may be involved but not all of them abet in criminal activities. This guy needs help.

Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.

Pretty
#10 Posted : Monday, September 07, 2009 10:48:00 AM
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@Dasany
Plan B: Track the imps down
• In most cases,Kidnappers are caught when they come to receive the money or send a carrier who is traced to the kidnappers hide out.
• Mobile phone transmission also works even when the guys change sim cards,so don’t give up on that front.
• In the meantime,retrace your brothers last steps. You never know,something will click that will give you tell tale signs of who is behind it or who assisted in the Kidnapping mission.
• Ask around where he was last seen,was he whisked away in a car? Mat,Taxi,bike etc
• Remember,when you engage the media,the Kidnappers will avoid injuring the boy cauze the manhunt that will follow will put them out of business. Thugs hate publicity as once an issue is publicized,they avoid murdering someone as doing so would elicit emotional outpourling,outrage and demand for action from the public. The only time this imps would kill would be as a warning to the public but Kidnappers are hardly ready to do so unless they are Mungiki or a serious gang like chinkololo.
@Mpenzi
• Twice. The last time,I outsmarted the guys,they were shot dead and the story ended there. So please don’t ask me about the incident till we settle Dasany’s case.
@All
• Dasany had put down the details here so well it would have been used against her. We hope the imps did not get to read the first post.


Stay young,keep your wheels in motion.
>>>>>>
A thing of beauty is a joy for ever:
Its loveliness increases;
It will never pass into nothingness;
But still will keep a bower quiet for us,
and a sleep full of sweet dreams,
and health, and quiet breathing. - Keats

>>>>>>>In life,there are three classes of people,
1. Those who make things happen,
2. Those who watch things happen
3. And those who ask what happened.

Where do you fall?
Agra
#11 Posted : Monday, September 07, 2009 11:10:00 AM
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I have received those smses threatening to kidnap my child if i dont send 30k.I hv reported to the cops but they are saying they would take action note that the alleged kinnappers know where i stay since they are talking of watching my house wat do i do?

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#12 Posted : Monday, September 07, 2009 11:16:00 AM
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Admin,the threads here are not visible,i am seeing the count grow but cannot follow thru......could it be for premium members...lol

God for us all.... the rest of you pay cash

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Kaigangio
#13 Posted : Monday, September 07, 2009 11:18:00 AM
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??????


NEVER TALK OF A RHINO IF THERE IS NO TREE NEAREBY - ZULU PROVERB
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
leona
#14 Posted : Monday, September 07, 2009 11:33:00 AM
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@Agra,
Am quite lost...just coz they told you they're watching ur house in a txt you believed them?? What else in the txt could prove that they actually know where you live? Dont send cash..just make sure your kid is under close suivillance at all times. Does he/she go to a public school? Do you have a new housegal?(housegals have been know to work hand in hand with kidnappers)

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Informer
#15 Posted : Monday, September 07, 2009 1:58:00 PM
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@agra.. apart from maids.Most of this SMS originate from people behind bars in Kamiti,Naivasha etc..How do they get numbers for potential people to sollicit money? They go through the newspaper adverts. People selling cars,houses etc are targets. When advertising,make sure you use a line you can dispose or one meant for business only.

SECURITY STARTS WITH YOU
alerts.you@gmail.com
whatever is done in the dark will always come to the light and find its way to bite u in the ass (SO DO THE RIGHT THING EVEN WHEN NO-ONE IS WATCHING)
Pretty
#16 Posted : Tuesday, September 08, 2009 5:42:00 AM
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@ Agra......
As a rule of thumb,follow these rules when using your mobile phone to avoid SMS and phone scare conmen.
• Never answer a call from a withheld number. Let your friends know you never take such phone calls.
• Answer calls from people in your phone book. Those not in your phone book,ignore twice. If they call a third time,go to a phone bureau and call the number from there to know the identity of the caller.
• Ignore SMS messages that are threating but report the same to the police of a station away from your home area. The conmen will station someone near the home area police station to make you believe they have kept you under surveillance.
• Inform your husband,wife,partner or guardian but do so while hidden in-case the conmen are watching you. In most cases,they are miles away and are only playing with your psych. A friend told me yesterday how she was told to send 2000k or her son would be murdered. She sent the cash and only told her husband later who castigated her for being foolish. If only she had shared her predicament with him immediately she received the SMS.
• Incase the guy at the other end actually knows your name etc,remember the information could’ve been gotten from your business card,forwarded e-mail address,various CV’s you ever sent out,maids,your kids etc Read an article I will post here.


Stay young,keep your wheels in motion.
>>>>>>
A thing of beauty is a joy for ever:
Its loveliness increases;
It will never pass into nothingness;
But still will keep a bower quiet for us,
and a sleep full of sweet dreams,
and health, and quiet breathing. - Keats

>>>>>>>In life,there are three classes of people,
1. Those who make things happen,
2. Those who watch things happen
3. And those who ask what happened.

Where do you fall?
Gordon Gekko
#17 Posted : Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:01:00 AM
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@pretty,2000k is 2 Million. How was that delivered?
Mr.Tea
#18 Posted : Tuesday, September 08, 2009 6:11:00 AM
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@ Pretty,
I must say I find your knowledge in all this as impressive as it is creepy.Do you work for the NSIS or are you simply drawing from your own life's experiences? I am just curious...

Patience Pays in Guaranteed Checks
Patience Pays In Guaranteed Checks.
Pretty
#19 Posted : Tuesday, September 08, 2009 7:23:00 AM
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@ Gordon.................
• Pole Gordon,I meant 2k
• It was sent via M-pesa. The number is still on but cauze she does not want to admit she sent the cash,we can’t follow up on the same.



@ Mr. Tea.........................
• That is my biggest problem,what I see as obvious is seen as being smart. What I have presented here is what a thirteen year old can conjure up. But when one is under stress,even mundane tasks appear herculean.


Stay young,keep your wheels in motion.
>>>>>>
A thing of beauty is a joy for ever:
Its loveliness increases;
It will never pass into nothingness;
But still will keep a bower quiet for us,
and a sleep full of sweet dreams,
and health, and quiet breathing. - Keats

>>>>>>>In life,there are three classes of people,
1. Those who make things happen,
2. Those who watch things happen
3. And those who ask what happened.

Where do you fall?
Informer
#20 Posted : Tuesday, September 08, 2009 7:44:00 AM
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@Inspector Pretty... Never say never. If you are a job seeker or in business,there are some organisation who have barred ID of all there outgoing call. You may miss that call you waiting for for either a contract or a job. Interviews for my current job were conducted on phone and was from unknown number,what if I had ignored it. I have friend working in big NGOs and all their outgoing official lines bar outgoing caller ID.
You said you can not follow up the matter cause the complaint is not ready to follow up the matter,then have a data base of such numbers for future reference or investigate whom the number belong to and warn him. I believe that is crime prevention,which is one of you core duties.

SECURITY STARTS WITH YOU
alerts.you@gmail.com
whatever is done in the dark will always come to the light and find its way to bite u in the ass (SO DO THE RIGHT THING EVEN WHEN NO-ONE IS WATCHING)
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