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Best annual returns for 1M
anasazi
#1 Posted : Thursday, January 13, 2011 5:38:47 PM
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I know this question has been asked in many forms, but please indulge me. A friend asked, if he had 1 million KES, and wanted a moderate risk investment, which would be the best?

I dont think he has the time to actively invest in stocks, so that doesn't count. Does he go for the fund managers, i.e British American, Old Mutual? What would the investment gurus here suggest?
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Ali Baba
#2 Posted : Thursday, January 13, 2011 7:28:00 PM
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ANASAZI:Give the SH.1M to Prof. Ndung'u for 20 years at the highest available rate and wait for interest payments twice a year.CBK is risk-free (if there are no hague-bound criminals amongst us)and no charges like the ones levied by Britak,Old Mutual,etc.......my one cent.....
guru267
#3 Posted : Thursday, January 13, 2011 7:55:18 PM
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I agree with AliBaba.. Go for some long term G.O.K paper which is yielding around 10% p.a... The only charges are a negligible commission and a 15% with holding tax on interest...

Plus its practically risk free...
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Ali Baba
#4 Posted : Thursday, January 13, 2011 9:38:44 PM
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GURU: Why pay commission?You pay commission because you use an investment bank to buy your bond.When I buy my bonds I go direct to CBK and pay there hence avoiding all such charges......however,people have their unique way of doing things. I have seen people who pay sh 300 to a broker to apply for a PIN Certificate while all you need is an ID and you walk into Times Tower.....
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#5 Posted : Friday, January 14, 2011 8:58:54 AM
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Invest it on real estate here prime land after the one year some good returns.
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anasazi
#6 Posted : Friday, January 14, 2011 10:20:22 AM
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OK, so like Government bonds are the best? Somehow I thought there would be a better return than 10%! Anyway, more ideas?
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young
#7 Posted : Friday, January 14, 2011 10:51:11 AM
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1M Ksh is a lot of money. this translates to above USD12,500.

I would have headed to Westlands based dry associates seek advice and invest on a USD or other strong currency denominated products as follows :-

(i) 50% on a USD denomonated hedge fund with guaranteed returns circa 10% P. A.

(ii) Foreign currency denominated balanced fund
product that invests 50 % on fixed income and the other 50 % global stocks.

This is because 10% return in Ksh cannot be compared to equivalent return in convertible strong currencies on the long term.

If you pay a visit there they will guide and educate you better on a suitable investment product that suits your investment objective.

Before you pay a visit to their office, check out their website for their physical address in Kenya and other info :-

www.dryassociates.com




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anasazi
#8 Posted : Friday, January 14, 2011 10:58:26 AM
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Thanks @young. Will definitely look into that option!
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young
#9 Posted : Friday, January 14, 2011 11:11:41 AM
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Had it been you are based in West Africa like me I would have suggested Accra Ghana based mutual funds of data bank group. www.databankgroup.com

One of my friends had 4 million naira (circa 2M ksh), he did not want to invest in stocks so I advised him to head there as I also invest there.

He invested as follows in Jan 2010:-

(i) 50% in Mfund (Fixed income like bonds, treasury bills).

(ii) 50% ib Bfund (50% stocks, 50% fixed income)

I really persuaded him on Bfund as he wanted to invest all in Mfund. My conviction was because of the precedent, that this witty Databank guys in Ghana invest not only in stocks of Ghana, but on 11 other stocks markets in Africa (including Kenya), so there is some spread.

For the year ending Dec 2010, here are the returns :-

Mfund 12.99 %
Bfund 34 %

Be aware 1USD = 1.44 Ghana cedis, so my friend have strong currency advantage here because 10% return in Nigeria naira cannot be compared to 10% gain in Ghana Cedis because 1 Ghance Cedi = 100 Naira.

This just an illustration not an invitation to invest in Ghana !!!
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young
#10 Posted : Friday, January 14, 2011 12:16:50 PM
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@Anasazi,

The overview of basket of investment products of Franklin templeton mutual funds in which Kenya based Dry associates are the agents can be found in this link


http://www.dryassociates...es/ProductProfileFT.pdf


But as I said you need to visit them and discuss for guidance


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