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Raw deal from the NSE, Ghana Stock Exchange = Real Thing
young
#21 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 8:52:46 PM
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Yep Pkoli your findings will be useful to other wazuarians.

Personally I cannot imagine how an investor will just trade or invest in one market, become a local champion and is fulfilled when there are bountless opportunities elseway.


It is more interesting , more exciting but strange.

Even African fund managers do not do that.


The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
youcan'tstopusnow
#22 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 9:48:50 PM
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Pkoli, don't forget to get back to us when you find the answers from your broker. Many thanks
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
qw25041985
#23 Posted : Monday, August 16, 2010 9:52:11 PM
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Yeah @ pk . Please get back to us. Much appreciated .
Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
young
#24 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:52:41 AM
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@Chief Kpoli,


A little observation :-

AA Ghana though big do not have a website to see more details about account opening procedure for interested wazuarians,, is that of Uganda and Kenya the same ?

I hope phone conversation will suffice.
The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
PKoli
#25 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:24:08 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Pkoli, don't forget to get back to us when you find the answers from your broker. Many thanks


Hi Pals,

I sent a mail to African Alliance Ghana yesterday after obtaining the address from website of the link that Mzee young had given us: Please see the response:

Thank you for your interest in doing business with African Alliance Securities Ghana Ltd (AASG), a Licensed Dealing Member of the Ghana Stock Exchange (GSE).

Due to the difference in the Know your client (KYC) requirements of each country, you must have separate accounts in each country office. However for only institutional investors using custodians, we currently provide this service where such clients can open an account and deal with one business while executing trades on various African markets. We are currently streamlining our procedures to allow for trading across countries for individuals.

You will therefore have to open a separate account with us

Automation of the GSE trading and settlement platforms has transformed the processes by which trade is carried out on the GSE. Below are the details about the new procedures involved:

A prospective investor must first open a brokerage account with AASG and a depository account in the GSE Securities Depository (GSD) prior to trading in securities.


Opening a Brokerage Account

· Individuals
The investor completes AASG’s Account Opening Form (AOF) giving some personal details, a color passport picture, a copy of an identification document (voter card, driving licence, passport, national id) , bank details and evidence of the bank details provided (cancelled cheque, bank statement).

Opening a Depository Account

To open the depository account in the GSD, investors must complete a GSD Securities Account Registration Form (GSD 1a for Individuals and GSD 1b for institutional investors).

Purchasing/Selling securities

· Purchase

If not using custodians, the client completes a purchase order either by mail or in person, after which the trade would be executed only against cleared funds (deposits can be made by cheque, bank transfer or direct cash deposit into AASG’s Clients Account and evidence of the deposit submitted).

· Sale

If not using custodians, the client completes a sale order either by mail or in person, after which the trade would be executed against the client’s holdings per their depository account.


Settlement

Settlement is on T+3.

The market does not recognise trade failures although there may be a delayed settlement.

In addition the exchange has established a fidelity fund for compensating investors in cases where brokers are unable to satisfy claims in respect of liability incurred by them in connection with stock broking business.

Fees

· Equities
The Ghana Stock Exchange stipulates the maximum total commission and levies chargeable as 2.5% of the value of the transactions. The total levies and commission are made up as follows:

Regulatory Levies (non-negotiable)Broker CommissionTotal Levies + Commission
GSESECGSDCMarket dev’tMaximumMaximum
0.35%0.15%0.15%0.05%1.8%2.5%


Our quoted broker commission is 1.5%, although we may give discounts depending on the size of the transaction. Therefore as regulatory levies amount to 0.7% of the value of the transaction, the total levies and commissions we charge is 2.2%.

· Bonds
The Ghana Stock Exchange stipulates the maximum total commission and levies chargeable as 0.145% of the value of the transactions. The total levies and commission are made up as follows:

Regulatory Levies (non-negotiable)Broker CommissionTotal Levies + Commission
GSESECGSDCMarket dev’tMaximumMaximum
0.02%0.009%0.009%0.002%0.105%0.145%


Our quoted broker commission is 0.105%, although we may give discounts depending on the size of the transaction. Therefore as regulatory levies amount to 0.04% of the value of the transaction, the total levies and commissions we charge is 0.145%.

Nonresident foreigners may only purchase Government of Ghana Bonds with 3yr or more maturity.

Exchange Controls
There are no exchange controls currently and there is full and free foreign exchange remittability of:
a) The original capital or principal amounts
b) Any capital gains
c) Dividends or interest payments
d) Related earnings and refunds
Kindly find attached our individual Account Opening Form (AoF) and GSD Securities Account Registration Form (GSD 1a). Also attached is a guide to completing the necessary forms to open brokerage and depository accounts with African Alliance Securities Ghana Ltd.

Let me know if you require further information/clarification.
Regards
Salimy Bedwei-Majdoub

On behalf of

African Alliance Securities Ghana
+233 30 2679761-2/2679723 (tel) |+233 30 2679698 (fax) |+233 244640652 (mobile)
bedwei-majdoubs@africanalliance.com | www.africanalliance.com
PKoli
#26 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:34:50 AM
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young wrote:


Yep Pkoli your findings will be useful to other wazuarians.

Personally I cannot imagine how an investor will just trade or invest in one market, become a local champion and is fulfilled when there are bountless opportunities elseway.


It is more interesting , more exciting but strange.

Even African fund managers do not do that.




Thanks Mzee young, I was able to get a quick response from Ghana and I received all the necessary information (see my earlier post). I will be doing the necessary soon
the deal
#27 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:37:06 AM
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@Pkoli thanks for the info...i believe Ghana,Kenya,Uganda and Nigeria will provide great returns for investors in the next 10 years...
PKoli
#28 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:51:36 AM
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the deal wrote:
@Pkoli thanks for the info...i believe Ghana,Kenya,Uganda and Nigeria will provide great returns for investors in the next 10 years...


Welcome. I agree with you. I wish Angola was English speaking
mv_ufanisi
#29 Posted: : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:00:54 AM
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PKoli wrote:
the deal wrote:
@Pkoli thanks for the info...i believe Ghana,Kenya,Uganda and Nigeria will provide great returns for investors in the next 10 years...


Welcome. I agree with you. I wish Angola was English speaking



I'm in Angola once the BVDA opens. Portuguese we will learn in the process.
mv_ufanisi
#30 Posted : Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:10:40 AM
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young wrote:
@Chief VVS & Other Wazuarian,

When you want to invest overseas as a non resident retail investor, the most important factor to consider is the size ie capital base of the broking firm. First CAL bank (listed in GSE) is one of the smallest banks in Ghana. Ibrokers, their stock broking arm is one of the smallest (though efficient).

If you take a look at stockbroking firms in ghana (www.gse.com.gh) you will see bigger stock broking firms that are subsidiaries of big banks like Ecobank etc. Safety of your funds is very important.
I do no pray for bad thing to happen neither am I accusing Ibrokers. but the unfortunate incidence of small but efficient Kenya Discount brokers are still fresh in our memories. Imagine the fate of those that are non resident investors who invested through discount stockbrokers kenya.

Be aware too that Ibrokers online account is more of a nominee account, the shares they help you buy are kept in their name.

It is worth while to think outside the box (east Africa)

Best Regards

Young,
Nigeria,
West Africa


@young - thanks for the caution. It's definitely something worth thinking about. I did a little research Calbank market valuation is only 3.6billion kshs. It's been around since 1990 and only got a universal banking license in 2004. The Chairman of the Bank is also the Chairman of the GSE and it has quite a good board and diversified shareholding i.e it's not a family business.
I might consider switching to the bigger guys if they have just as good service and when I decide to put more money there. Much appreciated though.



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