@ Kadonye

You need to also say that such precedents must be within the constitution of the countries where the rulings are being applied and not contrary to any other written law.

@all, Stop being apologetic for being free and black. unless you would rather have masters on you.

this was a ruling and not a law ergo the constitution failing to specify that it cannot be questioned opens up that door. the Judges are on the right.
FYI: All the historical baggage that this matter has were explained to the Judges by Orengo for CKRC and Mugo for the Clergy.

the judiciary is clearly usurping the powers of the legislature by declaring the courts illegal in the current constitution. Its role is to enforce the current laws and should only declare relevant provisions null and void if inconsistent with another part of the constitution!

one has to wonder about the propensity for rogueness in kenya...
Why is it that when we just start praising the police for containing crime, they suddenly go rogue and start massacring young lads, just when we start praising parliament for asserting its authority by refusing to endorse ringera's helmsmanship at KACC it suddenly goes rogue by raising salaries & perks to global highs depsite public consternation and just when we start celebrating the judiciary's new-found courage and speed in concluding election petitions & sending over 5 Mpigs back home it suddenly goes rogue and starts cleaning out its closet from 2004 'discovers' a long pending judgement & uses it to unconstitutionally abrogate itself the additional role of the legislature by saying this law is bad and shouldn't be in the current constitution?
This inconsistency worries me.
So what next?!

DID YOU KNOW:
The Hindu Council of Kenya had been served with the application and it filed an affidavit in which it raised concerns sympathetic to the applicants, basically that the inclusion of the Kadhis courts in the Bomas Draft appeared to favour one religion against another

what is the relevance of the report on taliban's atrocities with this thread and the new katiba? the trail you have been blazing across wazua on your hate for islam is surprising for a supposed elder of wazua - or do they just dish out those titles here based on the number of one's post and irrespective of the content?

Well spoken mate!
Blanket condemnation needs to be condemned!!

How did you miss to frown or more, on the execution of the expectant lady.
Such cultures whether informed by religion or tradition are simply repugnant, infact criminal.

The executioners drew their inspiration from their faith!

@BTimer, now that you mention it, I watched the Stoning of Soraya M.

Haunting movie, based on a true story, adapted from a book writen by a French-Iranian journalist - banned in Iran, mind you.


Soraya M's husband wants to marry a young, flippant girl. But he's already married with 3 children - 2 boys, 1 girl - and he seems unable to support two families, or even return Soraya M's dowry as the custom requires.

A family friend is widowed, and the 'men of the village' ask Soraya M to start cooking for the widowed man and son. She's happy to do so in order to support her family, while unknowingly setting the stage for her husband's conspiracy on 'adultery claims'.



I don't care much for male tears, just don't have the time!
Nonetheless, when Soraya M was burried up to her waist, and her own father picked a stone but missed even after throwing thrice...
OR when the women they washed clothes with daily cast their lot against her...
OR her own sons, her very own blood off-spring, at the urging of their father, stood in front of the crowd and...


Don't act like the hypocrite, who thinks he can conceal his wiles while loudly quoting the Koran. - Hafez, 14th Century Iranian Poet

i stand corrected on the lebel elder. now thanks to you i have a better understanding of its meaning and or use.



so in effect you dont hate mulsims but hate islam. if you re-read my post i specifically wrote of your hate for islam, not muslims. seems i was right there, though where the hate for islam stops and non-hate for muslims begin for you is up in the winds.



are you for real? you sure seem to have an understanding of the kadhi courts that is nowhere in reality. i honestly thought that through the countless debates and civic education on this, the powers and jurisdiction of the kadhi courts were obvious to those who at least bothered to seek for the truth.

in any event kindly point out to me such barbaric practices that shall be 'practised by the kadhi courts'.



you are aware that for any party to fall under the kadhi court's jurisdiction such a party must consent to the jurisdiction of the said court? the operative word here being consent.



does the phrase taliban atrocities mean anything to you?

i used that phrase in my post and if your confessed hatred for islam did not blind you, you should have read it and realized my position on the whole incident. ATROCITIES. it is an english word and it has a meaning. i didn't realize that i had to further spell it out for the meaning to sink in.

reading your response to me, it further strikes me that your big gripe with all these is the fact that a woman was executed and the man walked scot free.

that in itself is unjust and bad but to me the greater evil is the very act of killing a woman (or a man for that matter) for her decisions on sex and her body generally, regardless of whether the society or religion allows them or not. and the killing of an innocent baby as well.