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Ukambani.........What went wrong?
banyamulenge
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:23:51 AM
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For the last few hours results have been around Red:2069306 Green:4172241. Who has the Current update.....and someone needs remind Kibz that he promised us a holiday.....

"The longer the fuse the mightier the blast!"
Ngalaka
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:54:32 AM
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State funds will be disbursed on equal basis to all counties!
Ukambani has ONLY 3 counties, so they get 3 counties worth of funds.

Kalanjin land whose population is the same as that of Ukambani has 6 Counties, so they get double as much as Ukambani gets.

The same scenario is replicated in the Senate since each county produces one senator.

This in essence puts Ukambani at a disadvantage in funds allocation and representation.

That in itself is enough to make the people reject a document that DISCRIMINATES against them.
It doesn’t matter that Kalonzo and co tried to get them to vote YES. The people affirmed that they are not mere sheep to be herded into what they may have certain strongly felt reservations about.

That will make the political class tread carefully.

But I must say that anybody reading this as a supposed end of Kalonzo as a preferred politician in Ukambani, he/she is mistaken.
If in the last general election, against all odds, knowing that he didn’t have a chance in hell, they voted for him almost to a man, I am sure come the next, they will replicate that.
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FundamentAli
#13 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:15:37 PM
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@Ngalaka

Counties are set by parliament. Bomas agrred on 74 counties. Naivasha endorsed 74 counties. CRC said 74 is not a legal number. The President promised to review the number (47) since it is set by an act of Parliament and he reckons parliament is not going to disappear and therefore it can be done. Wana enda wapi? . The Counties will be revised before the new constitution comes into effect.
willin2learn
#14 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:17:11 PM
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Njunge wrote:
I expected some resistance but not a total Red's show.What message are the people of Ukambani trying to send?.Could it be the end of Kalonzo?


I guess rather than castigate Ukambani Kenyans we should commend them. It's the only region that exhibited DEMOCRACY - divergence of opinions. We should be sorry/wary of the regions that voted as a block - They followed MEN/WOMEN and not issues. Block voting almost always Crystallises into WE vs THEM contests and that's excactly how Central Province Kenyans were viewed in 2007

As for Kalonzo faring badly in his own half, it was the tragedy of a MAN who drank Alvaro during the day and RED WINE at night!

On a rather different note i hazard to say here that WR ruto is the political winner in this one in view of 2012 elections - Assuming Ocampo fails to nail him -
Seeders
#15 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:45:45 PM
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understanding the kenyan voter's psyche:

-nyanza votes for any raila position to a man and we are amused by the sycophancy.

-ukambani refuses to follow kalonzo's position and we are puzzled by the degree of divergent views.
Ngalaka
#16 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:59:16 PM
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FundamentAli wrote:
@Ngalaka

Counties are set by parliament. Bomas agrred on 74 counties. Naivasha endorsed 74 counties. CRC said 74 is not a legal number. The President promised to review the number (47) since it is set by an act of Parliament and he reckons parliament is not going to disappear and therefore it can be done. Wana enda wapi? . The Counties will be revised before the new constitution comes into effect.



Whoever agreed to what number the end result is 47 counties where Ukambani has 3 and that is in the constitution.

Quite lopsided in reource disbursement and voting power in parliament - higher house.
Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
Impunity
#17 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:00:30 PM
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Seeders wrote:
understanding the kenyan voter's psyche:

-nyanza votes for any raila position to a man and we are amused by the sycophancy.
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@Seeders,
Nyanza and N/Eastern are always on the same side of things;Think about education,diseaes, etc...Am not amazed that they voted for Raila to the man. some even said that if Rao had read the draft and found it ok, why waste time voting otherwise!!!
Grave sycophancy...
I pity those coming from that side of the country.
Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you

Just wondering what will happen to that bloc of "followers" once Rao leaves the seen???
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Wamutonyi
#18 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:15:45 PM
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I beg to differ with those claiming Ukambani had a divergence of opinion. In my opinion, these guys are water melons from long time ago and are thus quite unreliable. They are always sitting on the fence. A good leader makes decision wrong or right and is ready to be held accountable.
Magigi
#19 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:23:18 PM
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sky5
#20 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 1:54:10 PM
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I think Ukambani voters need to be commended for voting with their conscience instead of following the leaders blindly.
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