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clergy in a fix
Wendz
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:16:38 AM
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Pastor M wrote:
@Wendz and Vinii.....We will preach the gospel of love,We will not condemn anyone First its not a suprise to any establised Clergy that for every 6 in the congrats 2 are sheep (will obey) and 4 are goats (will never obey but will never miss a sermon).Every sunday we tell them(kenyans)..be prayerfully,love your neighbours, stop sinning,stop being drunkards,stop beating your wives and husband but at the end of the day ITS A PERSONAL CHOOSE.

On sunday we will preach the gospel.
NB I m proud of the Kenyan Church she stood united and spoke in one voice.


@Pastor M

If you look at my comments, i do not doubt that the church has its place in the society and the world at large. I do appreciate it because that is where i get my spiritual nourishment.

All am asking is for the church not to get into more mess trying to justify why the goats voted the way they did by claiming rigging when we know the process was as transparent as it would have been. That is all. However, i will be in church on sunday, listen to the sermons and live my life according to the teachings of the Holy book. That does put the responsibility of me to think independently but in line with the teachings.
Njung'e
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:18:22 AM
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Now they know that they don't know....very sad.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
Jaguar
#13 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:35:57 AM
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the clergy played a very important role by standing their ground based on issues, otherwise this referendum would have become us (7 provinces) vs them (rift valley/kalenjin) just like 2005 was anti central/kiuks
Fundaah
#14 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:48:55 AM
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It would be wrong to put all the clergy in one side of the divide...Though I had already taken my stand ab initio ....Our Bishop told us to vote whichever way we thought was beneficial to us.....and I said it here on Monday....He is a great Man of God



To those who took a different position ...it was their democractic right ..but it was somehow saddening to see some accept outright lies from politicians eg gayism and try to impose them to their followers..for those with injured egos ... I wish them a quick recovery ......


To My Bishop .....you are a Great Man Of God....God bless you....
Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
masukuma
#15 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:53:49 AM
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Life goes on, people were shown a road sign but they chose to ignore, aren't the clergy the same people who tell you to stop fornicating but you still do? they can shout/scream but you make the decision yourself.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
masukuma
#16 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:54:52 AM
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wont most of you be pew warming this sunday or the next?
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Magigi
#17 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:09:12 AM
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...for me shetani ameshindwa. God has helped his people see the light. What do you think?
vinii
#18 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:13:03 AM
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masukuma wrote:
Life goes on, people were shown a road sign but they chose to ignore, aren't the clergy the same people who tell you to stop fornicating but you still do? they can shout/scream but you make the decision yourself.


Thats rather hash @ Masukuma, why are drawing an analogy between the 67% of Kenyans who voted YES and fornicators?? These good Kenyans did not ignore the road sign, they just chose to use a speed train instead!

Some good news to the clergy; Charles Njonjo (and others who had shared his thinking) will now resume tithing ( remember he stopped because he didn't want the tithe money to be chanelled to the NO campaign)
If you are an eagle don't hang around with chickens; chickens don't fly....
Pastor M
#19 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:18:31 AM
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@Magigi (politely) It depends who is shetani (to you) and who is god to you...
vinii
#20 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:22:37 AM
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Magigi wrote:
...for me shetani ameshindwa. God has helped his people see the light. What do you think?


Applause You are spot on @Njunge - God has spoken to Kenyans and they have listened.
It is our prayer that his people will continue listening to Him during the implementation stage which will no doubt be challenging.
If you are an eagle don't hang around with chickens; chickens don't fly....
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