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Finally, Kibaki puts Moi in his place!
Impunity
#41 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:48:53 PM
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mburuke wrote:
My problem is that we still have IDPS in the camps!


Whatever he has done doesn't matter as long as he still hold the reign as the first Kenya President to create the largest IDP camp in East Africa.
PERIOD.

Who would have imagined that Martha Karua would ditch Baks camp in just less than a year after forcing kiapo down the throat of baba past midnight?
WHO?
Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you
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You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

annsal
#42 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:02:49 PM
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@ kadonye -- vilified means to say or write unpleasant things about someone / something so that other people will have a low opinion of them.e.g.......
God loves a Trier!
PONDI
#43 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:09:03 PM
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moi has hit back! .... says kibaki has no moral authority to criticize him when in 2002 upon being sworn in as president, he promised new katiba in 100 days. which didn't happen. moi ni bure kabisa, can someone remind him all the crap he put kenya thru and what he achieved in his 24 years at statehouse?
Fundaah
#44 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:19:20 PM
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Pondi ... good to see you are realising the kind of people you are ganging up with to bring down the Draft....Tafasali ...for the sake of this GREAT NATION Vuka ...
I know you are a good man and you will heed to my humble request.....

A Yes vote has been endorsed by Kenya association of Manufacturers (KAM) and the whole business community .....This really matters...doesnt it?.....
More Investments....Jobs ...political stability ....a less anxious populations(to be honest....who is not anxious at today? whose heart is not beating faster as 4 August 2010 approaches.....).....we dont want to be in such a situation for the rest of our lives every time voting is about to happen
Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
B.Timer
#45 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:29:33 PM
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I cant help agreeing with most of what @ Impunity is saying.
Moi was the worst of the three presidents we have had so far.
His 24 years in power is lost time for Kenya.

Kibaki has his shortcomings that we should accept if we are to exercise some honesty.

However I know for a fact that Kibaki was sworn in a little past 5pm something I don’t have a problem with since that was the last day by law, before a new presidential term began –so someone NEEDED to be to be sworn in.
That someone was obviously him since he is the one good old Kivuitu decleared.

Kibaki takes blame for NOT doing ENOUGH to protect life and property during PEV.
Again, for me Kibaki is out of order to ridicule and disparage Moi the way he did.
In fact Kibaki acted out of character.
Sad indeed.
Dunia ni msongamano..
Ondiek
#46 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:35:26 PM
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Moi just answered Kibaki by stating that he failed to deliver the constitution within 100 days as he promised 8 years ago!

PONDI
#47 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:48:40 PM
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@Fundaah.. its a pity moi, ruto, jirongo happen to agree with yours truly on this katiba business. our reasons vary tho.
if today you went to buy a brand new shirt kwa duka, and shopkeeper presented you with a new shirt, with a big hole on the collar, and told you to 'buy and repair later' utakubali? afterall you are not naked, umevaa shirt even if its old, torn and faded...
Much Know
#48 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:52:13 PM
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Kifaki with his wife who goes slapping journalist and kids who bring gangsters and protects them just found an environment where dictatorship and bafoonery had been eroded by years of toil which he ridiculed as a pet to Moi. I am sure if kibaki took the helm in 1978 we would have seen hell and war for sure. This very cowardly and lazy prezo who did nothing as the country was collapsing in 2008 is just a lucky fellow. In terms of leadership the guy is way behind the two former prezy's.
Ras Kienyeji Man
theman192000
#49 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:57:19 PM
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PONDI wrote:
@Fundaah.. its a pity moi, ruto, jirongo happen to agree with yours truly on this katiba business. our reasons vary tho.
if today you went to buy a brand new shirt kwa duka, and shopkeeper presented you with a new shirt, with a big hole on the collar, and told you to 'buy and repair later' utakubali? afterall you are not naked, umevaa shirt even if its old, torn and faded...


Everyday, I have discussions with Kenyans who do not support the passage of the new constitution. I have heard analogies relating to food with a bit of poison, water with a bit of poison and now Pondi's with a torn shirt.

When will we as Kenyans realize that under the present constitution, to use Pondi's analogy, we ARE naked and have been for a while?!
winston
#50 Posted : Wednesday, July 28, 2010 4:58:01 PM
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Between Moi and Kibaki, who would win an election if one were to be called today?
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