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Wa_ithaka
#31 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 11:17:53 AM
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A YES win will almost certainly mean a nice little NSE bull run. I'm predicting ata 5,000 is doable.

I think mwanake wa Kibaki has his trouble signal up unlike in 2007. Wasa rooter & fellow kales welete storro...
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mwenza
#32 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 11:19:05 AM
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StatMeister wrote:
mwenza wrote:
The consequences of a NO victory are too grave to contemplate.

Luckily, we shall not have a refUrendum soon.


How so? A no will leave us without a new constitution, i.e. with the consitution we already have. What will change so fundamentally to cause a market crash?

In fact, a YES win means structural changes in government which may have SOME (not a lot of) effect on the markets, especially senior appointments and regulatory environment


As Martha Karua would tell you, Optimism and reality are quite different.

A NO victory, which of coz is an impossibility, will signify something akin to an end of the road. Whoever expects a NO victory does not live in Kenya.

To understand my last paragraph better, read my signature herebelow.
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youcan'tstopusnow
#33 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 11:21:20 AM
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VVS, agreed kabisa! The late indepence of the Southern African countries did wonders for them. It's the only reason why Zimbabwe has 80 percent literacy levels (among highest in Africa) not to mention excellent infrastructure (though that has been depleting fast since the late nineties)
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mwenza
#34 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 11:23:40 AM
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Brewer wrote:
StatMeister wrote:
mwenza wrote:
The consequences of a NO victory are too grave to contemplate.

Luckily, we shall not have a refUrendum soon.


How so? A no will leave us without a new constitution, i.e. with the consitution we already have. What will change so fundamentally to cause a market crash?...



Statmeister, you are spot on. Some people are just being fearmongers. The referendum was designed to be a YES or NO unless someone says NO was never meant to be an option.
Whether YES or NO wins we will need to continue working for reform. Constitutional reform is a journey, not a destination!


My considered opinion is that when YES was declared a government project, NO was never meant to be an option. Its that simple.
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mwenza
#35 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 11:26:46 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
VVS, agreed kabisa! The late indepence of the Southern African countries did wonders for them. It's the only reason why Zimbabwe has 80 percent literacy levels (among highest in Africa) not to mention excellent infrastructure (though that has been depleting fast since the late nineties)



Are we suggesting that Mutahi Ngunyi is right when he reckons that PEV should have been allowed to run the full course?
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VituVingiSana
#36 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 11:28:20 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
VVS, agreed kabisa! The late indepence of the Southern African countries did wonders for them. It's the only reason why Zimbabwe has 80 percent literacy levels (among highest in Africa) not to mention excellent infrastructure (though that has been depleting fast since the late nineties)
High literacy rates thanks to comrade bob but infrastructure is coz of White Zimbabweans?

South Africa has great infrastructure too...
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youcan'tstopusnow
#37 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 11:43:59 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
High literacy rates thanks to comrade bob but infrastructure is coz of White Zimbabweans?

Really? Are you suggesting that there was a time when Mugabe had a functioning brain and was actually interested in the development of 'his' peoplesmile Also just wondering, will prisoners be voting in the referendum?
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Stealth
#38 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 11:53:36 AM
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Its great that we got independence when we did. But am of the opinion that a late independence (10 - 15yrs later) would have done this country some good on the development front.
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VituVingiSana
#39 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 11:55:13 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
High literacy rates thanks to comrade bob but infrastructure is coz of White Zimbabweans?

Really? Are you suggesting that there was a time when Mugabe had a functioning brain and was actually interested in the development of 'his' peoplesmile Also just wondering, will prisoners be voting in the referendum?
comrade bob was very progressive early on then his wife (Sally) died. He married his nurse & things went downhill...

The problem in Africa is that leaders do not leave willingly after a few years. They have to be forced out. Botswana is the exception. Mauritius has a decent democracy too. No coups/violence there either.

museveni said max 10 years. Now he wants another term to add to his 27 years or so!

moi was forced out. If he had refused, we would have seen a civil war & he would have lost. Perhaps his head too. Literally.

wade of Senegal wants a 3rd term... kwani?

I hope Kagame does not go down the same route!
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the deal
#40 Posted : Friday, July 23, 2010 12:01:41 PM
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Stealth wrote:
Its great that we got independence when we did. But am of the opinion that a late independence (10 - 15yrs later) would have done this country some good on the development front.

True that i think Kenya was not ready for independence in the 1960's...only a few handful Kenyans were educated and knew what was happening...
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