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Blackout
#91 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:11:07 PM
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am new here, but if u ask for my 2 cents...I think we dont have a choice with this mistake in our hands- Thika Rd expansion? Or do we? I dont think so.....
but I surely hope all will turn out well
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whynow
#92 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:37:18 PM
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Someone please explain why Machakos turnoff-Rironi bound vehicles will pay toll charges once the new roads are complete yet all other new roads are toll-free. Dont those guys also pay taxes.
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callaspade
#93 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:19:37 PM
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...you cannot bring in mombasa road into the equation before you understand how it is/was meant to work .
...the diversion at St James hospital comes out through langata road into ngong forest out to the karen dagoretti(KICHINJIO) THEN off the turning before Alliance(which takes you to mau mahiu road) or better continue to the bypass near Kikuyu.
....still on mombasa road,there is meant to be an overpass from bunyala landing near chiromo.this is the road above uhuru highway that goes to the interchange past musuem hill ....which was being discussed yesterday in the business daily(russian connection).
...you do not need to expand the roads within the city to ease jams.all this roads just need links and are eventually linked to Thika road.simple
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msotoville
#94 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:24:15 PM
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The links will help @callaspade.

But I think unless you address the mad rush to/from the city between 6-10am and 5-8pm, even if we expand Thika Road in layers, wacha hiyo lanes, ni bure tu!

I refer (yet again) to @yeke's report...
3.1.2
By 2007, there were 23 cars to every 1000 peeps.

3.7.2
Nbi's population had ballooned to 6.76 milli by 2005.

3.7.3
42% ride/walk to work, 49% take a mathree/train while 9% drive to work. 12,000 matatus account for 82% of all commuters barreling back and forth between mtaas and CBD.
2 COMMUTER TRAINS OPERATE IN THE MORNING AND EVENING (1 TRIP EACH) AND ACCOUNT FOR 1.5% OF ALL COMMUTER TRAFFIC.

3.7.4
Here, the appraisal admits the 14/25 seater matatus are both unreliable, chaotic and fatal and further recommends Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) and Light Rail Transit (LRT) as the ULTIMATE solution.

Methinks this report admits shingo upande that the expansion of Thika Road is a stop-gap measure.

Imagine, a temporary solution with 67 billion KES price tag? Duh!....What a bright idea!
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mozenrat
#95 Posted : Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:41:12 AM
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The mad rush is being addressed by companies moving out of the CBD (albeit for a different reason - parking). What is now required of the Govt is to get rid of these points of confluence by creating links to the outskirts that do not require drivers to pass through the city i.e. bypasses...

Thousands of people working on Mombasa Road come from Thika road side and all have to drive through the city, ditto Waiyaki Way... If we got rid of these bottlenecks, we wouldn't even need to expand the highways as much...
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Horton
#96 Posted : Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:27:12 AM
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Your missing the point. The road is not merely for thika. It connects to the northern corridor
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msotoville
#97 Posted : Friday, August 06, 2010 6:24:02 PM
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mozenrat wrote:
The mad rush is being addressed by companies moving out of the CBD (albeit for a different reason - parking). What is now required of the Govt is to get rid of these points of confluence by creating links to the outskirts that do not require drivers to pass through the city i.e. bypasses...

Thousands of people working on Mombasa Road come from Thika road side and all have to drive through the city, ditto Waiyaki Way... If we got rid of these bottlenecks, we wouldn't even need to expand the highways as much...


Dude,

Those companies moving out of the CBD's will de-congest the CBD. Lakini, for commuters using public transport (and trust me, they are a dime a dozen), they'll still have to connect via CBD. These unfortunate souls account for 49% of the problem. The lucky cheps with rides who can happily bypass the mess constitute a paltry 9%.

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subzero
#98 Posted : Friday, October 08, 2010 5:14:12 PM
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i see most guys agree with this post that was discussed sometime last year .


http://www.wazua.co.ke/forum.aspx?g=posts&t=1605
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mozenrat
#99 Posted : Friday, October 08, 2010 9:45:26 PM
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msotoville wrote:
mozenrat wrote:
The mad rush is being addressed by companies moving out of the CBD (albeit for a different reason - parking). What is now required of the Govt is to get rid of these points of confluence by creating links to the outskirts that do not require drivers to pass through the city i.e. bypasses...

Thousands of people working on Mombasa Road come from Thika road side and all have to drive through the city, ditto Waiyaki Way... If we got rid of these bottlenecks, we wouldn't even need to expand the highways as much...


Dude,

Those companies moving out of the CBD's will de-congest the CBD. Lakini, for commuters using public transport (and trust me, they are a dime a dozen), they'll still have to connect via CBD. These unfortunate souls account for 49% of the problem. The lucky cheps with rides who can happily bypass the mess constitute a paltry 9%.




Dude/dudette..

How can you quote me and fail to see that you've just repeated what I've written in the second paragraph???
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msotoville
#100 Posted : Saturday, October 09, 2010 8:29:42 PM
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@ Monzerat

Quote:

Dude/dudette..

How can you quote me and fail to see that you've just repeated what I've written in the second paragraph???


Boss/Madam,

The second para, you refer to the "my car" clique who, courtesy of the frenzied construction blossoming all over, have options up the wazoo.

I refer to commuters dependent on public transport who are not so well endowed with options.

And if the perennial jams at Yaya/Ngong Road/M-Road/Westie are anything to go by, Businesses who hightailed it to the burbs are just compounding the problem.
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