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Rank: New-farer Joined: 2/27/2018 Posts: 58 Location: Cambrian Dc
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Wueh! So this is what had spooked the horses! Some insiders knew what was coming and headed for the exits. No more life boats left. Kesho ni kubad. Let's hope those inside don't panic and send this thing to 2bob If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst at once into the sky that would be like the splendour of the mighty one.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,622
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Bridge Loan...Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,622
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:littledove wrote:obiero wrote:Tomorrow is the day meanwhile the share has closed at 5 today with very little supply of below 100k, if the results are positive the share will race easily towards 10 and above. if by any chance they are bad the share will collapse towards 4. It's almost impossible that the H1 results will be negative, marginally reduced profitability maybe, but definitely not a loss. The volume action in past week is an indicator. Dear @Obiero, Please share KQ's results with us. I keep saying anyone who follows @Obiero needs to be put under suicide watch!!! I have seen @DtheK followed @Obiero. Sold HF and bought KQ. Compare the growth in profit in HF and the growth in LOSS in KQ!! I really feel bad for @DtheK. Such stuff really suck! Pole comrade @DtheK. Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,622
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We raised the issue of the grounded planes with @VVS and it was played down. Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,243 Location: Nairobi
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My dear @Obiero, Please let us know if you are okay. Or not. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,243 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:littledove wrote:obiero wrote:Tomorrow is the day meanwhile the share has closed at 5 today with very little supply of below 100k, if the results are positive the share will race easily towards 10 and above. if by any chance they are bad the share will collapse towards 4. It's almost impossible that the H1 results will be negative, marginally reduced profitability maybe, but definitely not a loss. The volume action in past week is an indicator. Dear @Obiero, Please share KQ's results with us. Almost impossible is not equal to impossible. KES 12B loss after tax. We had 3 large birds out of service, and H1 was not high season. Still inside the bus, strong What about definitely not a loss? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,838 Location: nairobi
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 VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:littledove wrote:obiero wrote:Tomorrow is the day meanwhile the share has closed at 5 today with very little supply of below 100k, if the results are positive the share will race easily towards 10 and above. if by any chance they are bad the share will collapse towards 4. It's almost impossible that the H1 results will be negative, marginally reduced profitability maybe, but definitely not a loss. The volume action in past week is an indicator. Dear @Obiero, Please share KQ's results with us. Almost impossible is not equal to impossible. KES 12B loss after tax. We had 3 large birds out of service, and H1 was not high season. Still inside the bus, strong What about definitely not a loss? Look deeper into the KQ financials mzee, where there was introduction of 1 new 787 this year, while the grounded 3 caused some strain. 12B is not abnormal for the scale of revenues involved. Fleet sizing can tilt the scales as has been seen, but H2 is where the business happens for KQ. H2 should clear the air for naysayers. USD 500m capital raising near-complete, and it will be payday! Watch and learn
COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 804,000 ABP 6.26; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,243 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:littledove wrote:obiero wrote:Tomorrow is the day meanwhile the share has closed at 5 today with very little supply of below 100k, if the results are positive the share will race easily towards 10 and above. if by any chance they are bad the share will collapse towards 4. It's almost impossible that the H1 results will be negative, marginally reduced profitability maybe, but definitely not a loss. The volume action in past week is an indicator. Dear @Obiero, Please share KQ's results with us. Almost impossible is not equal to impossible. KES 12B loss after tax. We had 3 large birds out of service, and H1 was not high season. Still inside the bus, strong What about definitely not a loss? Look deeper into the KQ financials mzee, where there was introduction of 1 new 787 this year, while the grounded 3 caused some strain. 12B is not abnormal for the scale of revenues involved. Fleet sizing can tilt the scales as has been seen, but H2 is where the business happens for KQ. H2 should clear the air for naysayers. USD 500m capital raising near-complete, and it will be payday! Watch and learn 12B is not abnormal for the scale of revenues involved.Turnover 74bn. LAT 12bn. So the loss was 16% of the Turnover. Good luck! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,838 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:littledove wrote:obiero wrote:Tomorrow is the day meanwhile the share has closed at 5 today with very little supply of below 100k, if the results are positive the share will race easily towards 10 and above. if by any chance they are bad the share will collapse towards 4. It's almost impossible that the H1 results will be negative, marginally reduced profitability maybe, but definitely not a loss. The volume action in past week is an indicator. Dear @Obiero, Please share KQ's results with us. Almost impossible is not equal to impossible. KES 12B loss after tax. We had 3 large birds out of service, and H1 was not high season. Still inside the bus, strong What about definitely not a loss? Look deeper into the KQ financials mzee, where there was introduction of 1 new 787 this year, while the grounded 3 caused some strain. 12B is not abnormal for the scale of revenues involved. Fleet sizing can tilt the scales as has been seen, but H2 is where the business happens for KQ. H2 should clear the air for naysayers. USD 500m capital raising near-complete, and it will be payday! Watch and learn 12B is not abnormal for the scale of revenues involved.Turnover 74bn. LAT 12bn. So the loss was 16% of the Turnover. Good luck! Asante mzee wangu. I'm belted up, ready for the ride
COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 804,000 ABP 6.26; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,838 Location: nairobi
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Some quick truths 1. The KQ results at operating loss level especially, were not pleasant 2. It is unlikely, near-impossible for KQ to turn a full year profit in 2025 3. With confirmed stoppage of the Open Offer for minority shareholders, the USD 500,000,000 capital injection is the only critical play left on the KQ share. If it fails, it is game over 4. If you are unable to hold mid-term, say two to three years, it is best that you sell today or nearest date to today 5. In case you are liquid and able to go long haul, proceed to add new stock/average down, the KQ share may give you more returns than you ever dreamed about
COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 804,000 ABP 6.26; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,622
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Kufa dereva, kufa makanga, kufa mechanic, kufa mwenye gari!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,622
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obiero wrote:Africa rising. Watch and learn @VVS - Watching and learning??? Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,622
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obiero wrote:Some quick truths
1. The KQ results at operating loss level especially, were not pleasant
2. It is unlikely, near-impossible for KQ to turn a full year profit in 2025
3. With confirmed stoppage of the Open Offer for minority shareholders, the USD 500,000,000 capital injection is the only critical play left on the KQ share. If it fails, it is game over
4. If you are unable to hold mid-term, say two to three years, it is best that you sell today or nearest date to today
5. In case you are liquid and able to go long haul, proceed to add new stock/average down, the KQ share may give you more returns than you ever dreamed about Sell today??? Wait for the market to open and see the blood on the streets! Definitely not a sellers a market. Unless of course one wants to take in losses before they get worse. Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,243 Location: Nairobi
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MaichBlack wrote:obiero wrote:Africa rising. Watch and learn @VVS - Watching and learning??? Lesson costs only 1bn/month!  Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/13/2014 Posts: 397 Location: Denmark
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MaichBlack wrote:Kufa dereva, kufa makanga, kufa mechanic, kufa mwenye gari!!! A good thing he referred to 'kamikaze'- kill or be killed! Seeing is believing
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,243 Location: Nairobi
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jawgey wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Kufa dereva, kufa makanga, kufa mechanic, kufa mwenye gari!!! A good thing he referred to 'kamikaze'- kill or be killed! Best bid at 9.58am is 1.80 Some poor suckers bought at 3.90 @Obiero Splash out the 500k! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,622
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VituVingiSana wrote:jawgey wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Kufa dereva, kufa makanga, kufa mechanic, kufa mwenye gari!!! A good thing he referred to 'kamikaze'- kill or be killed! Best bid at 9.58am is 1.80 Some poor suckers bought at 3.90 @Obiero Splash out the 500k! 1.56/= has printed. Total pandemonium!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,622
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,622
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jawgey wrote:MaichBlack wrote:Kufa dereva, kufa makanga, kufa mechanic, kufa mwenye gari!!! A good thing he referred to 'kamikaze'- kill or be killed! Biggest mistake made here. Someone broke the cardinal rule. They fell in love with the stock!! Very dangerous!! That or someone got in so deep both in terms of investing and defending the company/stock he found it difficult to get out. And yet it is a easy as saying "This was messed up. I was wrong. I take my losses. I'm out!!!" Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,622
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The sad thing is people are losing big time money here. That is not funny. These are real people losing real money. I hate that!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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