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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Hehe. Fluency in a foreign language is not equated to intelligence. Jiheshimu mzee wangu HFCK share price heading towards below ksh.3 Time to make clean money. Opportunity and time are given by God to all, but the choice to take advantage is left to the individual A quick uptick back to KES 5 is on the horizon. Watch and learn
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Hehe. Fluency in a foreign language is not equated to intelligence. Jiheshimu mzee wangu HFCK share price heading towards below ksh.3 Time to make clean money. Opportunity and time are given by God to all, but the choice to take advantage is left to the individual A quick uptick back to KES 5 is on the horizon. Watch and learn Nefer for the remainder of the year. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/17/2011 Posts: 207 Location: humu humu
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Just looked at HF financials at Wall Street. I can't touch this stock.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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kaifastus wrote:Just looked at HF financials at Wall Street. I can't touch this stock. Expound. What financials did you see? They report Q3 on Wednesday next week! Why is it's market price going up? P/E Excl. Extra Items (TTM) 2.06 Price To Sales (TTM) 0.38 Price To Book (Quarterly) 0.16 Price To Cash Flow (Per Share TTM) 1.96 Total Debt/Total Equity (Quarterly) 69.40 Long Term Debt/Equity (Quarterly) 46.87 Return On Investment (TTM) 0.00 Return On Equity (TTM) 0.68
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,095 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Hehe. Fluency in a foreign language is not equated to intelligence. Jiheshimu mzee wangu HFCK share price heading towards below ksh.3 Time to make clean money. Opportunity and time are given by God to all, but the choice to take advantage is left to the individual A quick uptick back to KES 5 is on the horizon. Watch and learn Reported EPS is sweet but even if HF makes KES 1 for FY23 why buy HF and not other banks that 1) have lower PERs 2) pay dividends My take is that DTB and I&M are better buys at 45 and 18 today since they pay dividends. Even if HF gets to 5, IMHO, banks like DTB and I&M will be better on a TOTAL RETURN BASIS for investors. Good luck! Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Hehe. Fluency in a foreign language is not equated to intelligence. Jiheshimu mzee wangu HFCK share price heading towards below ksh.3 Time to make clean money. Opportunity and time are given by God to all, but the choice to take advantage is left to the individual A quick uptick back to KES 5 is on the horizon. Watch and learn Reported EPS is sweet but even if HF makes KES 1 for FY23 why buy HF and not other banks that 1) have lower PERs 2) pay dividends My take is that DTB and I&M are better buys at 45 and 18 today since they pay dividends. Even if HF gets to 5, IMHO, banks like DTB and I&M will be better on a TOTAL RETURN BASIS for investors. Good luck! Depends on entry price and own exit. It's not easy to bookmark against another investor who's buy price is unknown. Just released Q3’2023 financial results, HF Group recorded a 283.9% increase in Profit After Tax (PAT) to Kshs 0.2 bn, from Kshs 0.1 bn recorded in Q3’2022. 21.4% increase in NII to Kshs 1.9 bn in Q3’2023, from Kshs 1.6 bn recorded in Q3’2022, coupled with a 20.6% increase NFI. My take is that a dividend of atleast KES 0.45 is inevitable for FY 2023. An 11% DY is attractive. Thanks for the good wishes elder
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/2/2010 Posts: 1,066
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Hehe. Fluency in a foreign language is not equated to intelligence. Jiheshimu mzee wangu HFCK share price heading towards below ksh.3 Time to make clean money. Opportunity and time are given by God to all, but the choice to take advantage is left to the individual A quick uptick back to KES 5 is on the horizon. Watch and learn Reported EPS is sweet but even if HF makes KES 1 for FY23 why buy HF and not other banks that 1) have lower PERs 2) pay dividends My take is that DTB and I&M are better buys at 45 and 18 today since they pay dividends. Even if HF gets to 5, IMHO, banks like DTB and I&M will be better on a TOTAL RETURN BASIS for investors. Good luck! Depends on entry price and own exit. It's not easy to bookmark against another investor who's buy price is unknown. Just released Q3’2023 financial results, HF Group recorded a 283.9% increase in Profit After Tax (PAT) to Kshs 0.2 bn, from Kshs 0.1 bn recorded in Q3’2022. 21.4% increase in NII to Kshs 1.9 bn in Q3’2023, from Kshs 1.6 bn recorded in Q3’2022, coupled with a 20.6% increase NFI. My take is that a dividend of atleast KES 0.45 is inevitable for FY 2023. An 11% DY is attractive. Thanks for the good wishes elder Dude. In memory of Charlie Munger who said 'Buy wonderful companies at fair prices rather than fair companies at wonderful prices. There is NOTHING wonderful about HFCK.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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My 2 cents wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Hehe. Fluency in a foreign language is not equated to intelligence. Jiheshimu mzee wangu HFCK share price heading towards below ksh.3 Time to make clean money. Opportunity and time are given by God to all, but the choice to take advantage is left to the individual A quick uptick back to KES 5 is on the horizon. Watch and learn Reported EPS is sweet but even if HF makes KES 1 for FY23 why buy HF and not other banks that 1) have lower PERs 2) pay dividends My take is that DTB and I&M are better buys at 45 and 18 today since they pay dividends. Even if HF gets to 5, IMHO, banks like DTB and I&M will be better on a TOTAL RETURN BASIS for investors. Good luck! Depends on entry price and own exit. It's not easy to bookmark against another investor who's buy price is unknown. Just released Q3’2023 financial results, HF Group recorded a 283.9% increase in Profit After Tax (PAT) to Kshs 0.2 bn, from Kshs 0.1 bn recorded in Q3’2022. 21.4% increase in NII to Kshs 1.9 bn in Q3’2023, from Kshs 1.6 bn recorded in Q3’2022, coupled with a 20.6% increase NFI. My take is that a dividend of atleast KES 0.45 is inevitable for FY 2023. An 11% DY is attractive. Thanks for the good wishes elder Dude. In memory of Charlie Munger who said 'Buy wonderful companies at fair prices rather than fair companies at wonderful prices. There is NOTHING wonderful about HFCK. The road to wealth is personal. Not forcing anyone to do anything. Just sharing my view. Meanwhile, check ranking of the top stocks at the NSE YTD 2023. Watch and learn!
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/2/2010 Posts: 1,066
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obiero wrote:My 2 cents wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Hehe. Fluency in a foreign language is not equated to intelligence. Jiheshimu mzee wangu HFCK share price heading towards below ksh.3 Time to make clean money. Opportunity and time are given by God to all, but the choice to take advantage is left to the individual A quick uptick back to KES 5 is on the horizon. Watch and learn Reported EPS is sweet but even if HF makes KES 1 for FY23 why buy HF and not other banks that 1) have lower PERs 2) pay dividends My take is that DTB and I&M are better buys at 45 and 18 today since they pay dividends. Even if HF gets to 5, IMHO, banks like DTB and I&M will be better on a TOTAL RETURN BASIS for investors. Good luck! Depends on entry price and own exit. It's not easy to bookmark against another investor who's buy price is unknown. Just released Q3’2023 financial results, HF Group recorded a 283.9% increase in Profit After Tax (PAT) to Kshs 0.2 bn, from Kshs 0.1 bn recorded in Q3’2022. 21.4% increase in NII to Kshs 1.9 bn in Q3’2023, from Kshs 1.6 bn recorded in Q3’2022, coupled with a 20.6% increase NFI. My take is that a dividend of atleast KES 0.45 is inevitable for FY 2023. An 11% DY is attractive. Thanks for the good wishes elder Dude. In memory of Charlie Munger who said 'Buy wonderful companies at fair prices rather than fair companies at wonderful prices. There is NOTHING wonderful about HFCK. The road to wealth is personal. Not forcing anyone to do anything. Just sharing my view. Meanwhile, check ranking of the top stocks at the NSE YTD 2023. Watch and learn! Dont measure the return of stocks in a single year; bwana!!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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My 2 cents wrote:obiero wrote:My 2 cents wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Hehe. Fluency in a foreign language is not equated to intelligence. Jiheshimu mzee wangu HFCK share price heading towards below ksh.3 Time to make clean money. Opportunity and time are given by God to all, but the choice to take advantage is left to the individual A quick uptick back to KES 5 is on the horizon. Watch and learn Reported EPS is sweet but even if HF makes KES 1 for FY23 why buy HF and not other banks that 1) have lower PERs 2) pay dividends My take is that DTB and I&M are better buys at 45 and 18 today since they pay dividends. Even if HF gets to 5, IMHO, banks like DTB and I&M will be better on a TOTAL RETURN BASIS for investors. Good luck! Depends on entry price and own exit. It's not easy to bookmark against another investor who's buy price is unknown. Just released Q3’2023 financial results, HF Group recorded a 283.9% increase in Profit After Tax (PAT) to Kshs 0.2 bn, from Kshs 0.1 bn recorded in Q3’2022. 21.4% increase in NII to Kshs 1.9 bn in Q3’2023, from Kshs 1.6 bn recorded in Q3’2022, coupled with a 20.6% increase NFI. My take is that a dividend of atleast KES 0.45 is inevitable for FY 2023. An 11% DY is attractive. Thanks for the good wishes elder Dude. In memory of Charlie Munger who said 'Buy wonderful companies at fair prices rather than fair companies at wonderful prices. There is NOTHING wonderful about HFCK. The road to wealth is personal. Not forcing anyone to do anything. Just sharing my view. Meanwhile, check ranking of the top stocks at the NSE YTD 2023. Watch and learn! Dont measure the return of stocks in a single year; bwana!!!!! You should have known how I operate by now. I have a strike price for each holding in my stock portfolio. Have visited several counters at NSE, USE, RSE, NGX with fairly decent returns. Also remember, I have never held more than 10% of my overall sums in the stock exchange. Real estate gets 90-95%, stocks the residual
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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My 2 cents wrote:obiero wrote:My 2 cents wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Hehe. Fluency in a foreign language is not equated to intelligence. Jiheshimu mzee wangu HFCK share price heading towards below ksh.3 Time to make clean money. Opportunity and time are given by God to all, but the choice to take advantage is left to the individual A quick uptick back to KES 5 is on the horizon. Watch and learn Reported EPS is sweet but even if HF makes KES 1 for FY23 why buy HF and not other banks that 1) have lower PERs 2) pay dividends My take is that DTB and I&M are better buys at 45 and 18 today since they pay dividends. Even if HF gets to 5, IMHO, banks like DTB and I&M will be better on a TOTAL RETURN BASIS for investors. Good luck! Depends on entry price and own exit. It's not easy to bookmark against another investor who's buy price is unknown. Just released Q3’2023 financial results, HF Group recorded a 283.9% increase in Profit After Tax (PAT) to Kshs 0.2 bn, from Kshs 0.1 bn recorded in Q3’2022. 21.4% increase in NII to Kshs 1.9 bn in Q3’2023, from Kshs 1.6 bn recorded in Q3’2022, coupled with a 20.6% increase NFI. My take is that a dividend of atleast KES 0.45 is inevitable for FY 2023. An 11% DY is attractive. Thanks for the good wishes elder Dude. In memory of Charlie Munger who said 'Buy wonderful companies at fair prices rather than fair companies at wonderful prices. There is NOTHING wonderful about HFCK. The road to wealth is personal. Not forcing anyone to do anything. Just sharing my view. Meanwhile, check ranking of the top stocks at the NSE YTD 2023. Watch and learn! Dont measure the return of stocks in a single year; bwana!!!!! You should have known how I operate by now. I have a strike price for each holding in my stock portfolio. Have visited several counters at NSE, USE, RSE, NGX with fairly decent returns. Also remember, I have never held more than 10% of my overall sums in the stock exchange. Real estate gets 90-95%, stocks the residual
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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@obiero How did HFCK close the year? Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:@obiero
How did HFCK close the year? Poorly like most other counters. The two men will finish us
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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Time and tide waits for no one
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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Watch and learn
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,095 Location: Nairobi
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https://www.businessdail...re-kajiado-land-4591290
Good news for HF though it may take time to actually sell it. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/companies/kampala-university-loses-bid-halt-auction-68-acre-kajiado-land-4591290
Good news for HF though it may take time to actually sell it. Market is a living organism
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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@Obiero has reduced his stake in HFCK. The proverbial rally to ksh.12 became a mirage Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,499 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:@Obiero has reduced his stake in HFCK.
The proverbial rally to ksh.12 became a mirage Relax
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,095 Location: Nairobi
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HF wants more of @Obiero's money Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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