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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,501 Location: nairobi
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McGill wrote:obiero wrote:volumes never lie Do you think we still have a lot of upward movement left? Yes. HF should not be trading below KES 7 and some keen investors have observed that fact
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:McGill wrote:obiero wrote:volumes never lie Do you think we still have a lot of upward movement left? Yes. HF should not be trading below KES 7 and some keen investors have observed that fact Between buying HFCK and it's parent Britam which is the safest bet. The performance of the two is hand in hand Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:McGill wrote:obiero wrote:volumes never lie Do you think we still have a lot of upward movement left? Yes. HF should not be trading below KES 7 and some keen investors have observed that fact The acccumulated losses figure is still high at ksh.3bn. Needs to be wiped out and become a positive figure/retained earnings. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,097 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:McGill wrote:obiero wrote:volumes never lie Do you think we still have a lot of upward movement left? Yes. HF should not be trading below KES 7 and some keen investors have observed that fact For every 100 HF@7, one can buy 60 ABSA@11.80ABSA pays a nice dividend, has a decent EPS and is growing. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,501 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:McGill wrote:obiero wrote:volumes never lie Do you think we still have a lot of upward movement left? Yes. HF should not be trading below KES 7 and some keen investors have observed that fact For every 100 HF@7, one can buy 60 ABSA@11.80ABSA pays a nice dividend, has a decent EPS and is growing. The ocean is wide enough for several ships to sail at the same time. Sinking my ship for yours to float is not a blessed strategy . Meanwhile capital appreciation of the two should also be compared within last one year. Personally, I am aware HF has risen 52% in last 12 months
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,097 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:McGill wrote:obiero wrote:volumes never lie Do you think we still have a lot of upward movement left? Yes. HF should not be trading below KES 7 and some keen investors have observed that fact For every 100 HF@7, one can buy 60 ABSA@11.80ABSA pays a nice dividend, has a decent EPS and is growing. The ocean is wide enough for several ships to sail at the same time. Sinking my ship for yours to float is not a blessed strategy . Meanwhile capital appreciation of the two should also be compared within last one year. Personally, I am aware HF has risen 52% in last 12 months Leo ni leo  You said 7/- so I was just comparing the options. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,501 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:McGill wrote:obiero wrote:volumes never lie Do you think we still have a lot of upward movement left? Yes. HF should not be trading below KES 7 and some keen investors have observed that fact For every 100 HF@7, one can buy 60 ABSA@11.80ABSA pays a nice dividend, has a decent EPS and is growing. The ocean is wide enough for several ships to sail at the same time. Sinking my ship for yours to float is not a blessed strategy . Meanwhile capital appreciation of the two should also be compared within last one year. Personally, I am aware HF has risen 52% in last 12 months Leo ni leo You said 7/- so I was just comparing the options. Volumes my brother volumes
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,097 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:McGill wrote:obiero wrote:volumes never lie Do you think we still have a lot of upward movement left? Yes. HF should not be trading below KES 7 and some keen investors have observed that fact For every 100 HF@7, one can buy 60 ABSA@11.80ABSA pays a nice dividend, has a decent EPS and is growing. The ocean is wide enough for several ships to sail at the same time. Sinking my ship for yours to float is not a blessed strategy . Meanwhile capital appreciation of the two should also be compared within last one year. Personally, I am aware HF has risen 52% in last 12 months Leo ni leo You said 7/- so I was just comparing the options. Volumes my brother volumes ABSA is liquid ;-) Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,501 Location: nairobi
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I see a trader selling 10,000 HF at KES 4.25. Pure madness
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:I see a trader selling 10,000 HF at KES 4.25. Pure madness Yes that is the stock market. ksh.7 is still a horizon away to be sighted Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,501 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:I see a trader selling 10,000 HF at KES 4.25. Pure madness Yes that is the stock market. ksh.7 is still a horizon away to be sighted Terrible really. And trade volumes in excess of 12m shares moved hands within last 10 trading sessions. This means only one thing. Someone knows more than the other. Asymmetry of market intel
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:I see a trader selling 10,000 HF at KES 4.25. Pure madness Yes that is the stock market. ksh.7 is still a horizon away to be sighted Terrible really. And trade volumes in excess of 12m shares moved hands within last 10 trading sessions. This means only one thing. Someone knows more than the other. Asymmetry of market intel Share price has been edging downwards and at some point this week went below ksh.4 Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,501 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:I see a trader selling 10,000 HF at KES 4.25. Pure madness Yes that is the stock market. ksh.7 is still a horizon away to be sighted Terrible really. And trade volumes in excess of 12m shares moved hands within last 10 trading sessions. This means only one thing. Someone knows more than the other. Asymmetry of market intel Share price has been edging downwards and at some point this week went below ksh.4 Yes. Saw that too. Insane really
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:I see a trader selling 10,000 HF at KES 4.25. Pure madness Yes that is the stock market. ksh.7 is still a horizon away to be sighted Terrible really. And trade volumes in excess of 12m shares moved hands within last 10 trading sessions. This means only one thing. Someone knows more than the other. Asymmetry of market intel Share price has been edging downwards and at some point this week went below ksh.4 Yes. Saw that too. Insane really And it is yet to recover Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,501 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:I see a trader selling 10,000 HF at KES 4.25. Pure madness Yes that is the stock market. ksh.7 is still a horizon away to be sighted Terrible really. And trade volumes in excess of 12m shares moved hands within last 10 trading sessions. This means only one thing. Someone knows more than the other. Asymmetry of market intel Share price has been edging downwards and at some point this week went below ksh.4 Yes. Saw that too. Insane really And it is yet to recover Still on top 5 gainers at the NSE for 2023
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,501 Location: nairobi
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I'm having 1.5m cash and your guess is as good as mine. I speak in code
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,097 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:I'm having 1.5m cash and your guess is as good as mine. I speak in code *I have 1.5mn in cash First Aid In English is 700/-. It is worth every cent. https://textbookcentre.c...st-aid-in-english_23781/Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,501 Location: nairobi
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Hehe. Fluency in a foreign language is not equated to intelligence. Jiheshimu mzee wangu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,678 Location: NAIROBI
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obiero wrote:Hehe. Fluency in a foreign language is not equated to intelligence. Jiheshimu mzee wangu HFCK share price heading towards below ksh.3 Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,501 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:obiero wrote:Hehe. Fluency in a foreign language is not equated to intelligence. Jiheshimu mzee wangu HFCK share price heading towards below ksh.3 Time to make clean money. Opportunity and time are given by God to all, but the choice to take advantage is left to the individual
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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