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VituVingiSana
#61 Posted : Thursday, June 24, 2021 2:50:36 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
Kibe21 wrote:
Monk wrote:
Kibe21 wrote:
Is 135/= a good entry price ex-dividend?


Historically, it is.


Held my horses but will grab some at 132/=.


got in at 132/=....Each time i have bought @275/=, @265/=, @231/= & @190/= i was thinking i was getting SCBK at lowest.

someone has a very big iceberg sale order @132/=. I know the seller doesn't want to spook the SCBK share falling further on account of big sale order but is this legal here? i.e hiding orders from other traders?

Good question kawi254, nobody wants to show the total order on the board to avoid spooking the market.
No one knows when this huge sell order will be filled, and the price the share will hit on completion of the order.

If SCBK keeps on making a similar ROE and has a similar DPR going forward then it's a great buy for an income investor. Like a bond!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
young
#62 Posted : Friday, June 25, 2021 12:03:24 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
kawi254 wrote:
Kibe21 wrote:
Monk wrote:
Kibe21 wrote:
Is 135/= a good entry price ex-dividend?


Historically, it is.


Held my horses but will grab some at 132/=.


got in at 132/=....Each time i have bought @275/=, @265/=, @231/= & @190/= i was thinking i was getting SCBK at lowest.

someone has a very big iceberg sale order @132/=. I know the seller doesn't want to spook the SCBK share falling further on account of big sale order but is this legal here? i.e hiding orders from other traders?

Good question kawi254, nobody wants to show the total order on the board to avoid spooking the market.
No one knows when this huge sell order will be filled, and the price the share will hit on completion of the order.

If SCBK keeps on making a similar ROE and has a similar DPR going forward then it's a great buy for an income investor. Like a bond!



Yes indeed....,.
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#63 Posted : Friday, June 25, 2021 9:41:53 AM
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Very true @vvs and @young.
Trading at GFC lows of March 2009 as seen below

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VituVingiSana
#64 Posted : Friday, June 25, 2021 11:02:38 AM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
Very true @vvs and @young.
Trading at GFC lows of March 2009 as seen below


It's nice to profit growth, etc but unless the share price increases and we are in a position to sell it means nothing.
Cash is reality. We can deploy the cash elsewhere.

SCBK cannot grow beyond Kenya since StanChart (Parent) has businesses in other countries in Africa. It's like ABSA Kenya.
So the motivation may be to grow sustainably within Kenya vs expansion into the region like Equity.

Equity for "growth" and retirement!
SCBK for (regular) cashflow in the near future.
*Another for cashflow is BAT
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young
#65 Posted : Sunday, June 27, 2021 2:13:16 AM
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https://www.businessdail...ith-digitisation-3450306
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Ericsson
#66 Posted : Monday, June 28, 2021 4:31:42 AM
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young wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/companies/stanchart-sets-sight-on-future-with-digitisation-3450306


The local and South African banks (ABSA+Stanbic) have given Stanchart a beating.
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Ericsson
#67 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2021 3:13:18 PM
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Q3 results to be released tomorrow 16 November 2021
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My 2 cents
#68 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2021 4:31:54 PM
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Does anyone know who or which institution has been moving out of StanChart in a big way over the last one year? There has been heavy selling on this stock since 2020. Those of you in the know, what is the concern?

Ericsson
#69 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2021 4:57:54 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Q3 results to be released tomorrow 16 November 2021


Interim dividend of ksh.5
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young
#70 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2021 8:51:47 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Q3 results to be released tomorrow 16 November 2021


Interim dividend of ksh.5


Thanks @Ericsson

SCBK good enough for old people like us.
Does not allow us die of hunger while holding the counter.

Thanks also Stanbic though SCBK did better.
I envisage ksh 7.50 final dividend making it ksh 12.50 in total ,
a whooping 9.6% dividend yield from today's closing price.

Congrats @VVS.

Hope BBK will reward us well also. Either 20ct interim or at least 90ct final.



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My 2 cents
#71 Posted : Monday, November 15, 2021 10:08:06 PM
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That is my Xmas right there :)
When it comes to dividends; Stanchart itches to pay while DTB is very begrudging
VituVingiSana
#72 Posted : Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:46:45 PM
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young wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Q3 results to be released tomorrow 16 November 2021


Interim dividend of ksh.5


Thanks @Ericsson

SCBK good enough for old people like us.
Does not allow us die of hunger while holding the counter.

Thanks also Stanbic though SCBK did better.
I envisage ksh 7.50 final dividend making it ksh 12.50 in total ,
a whooping 9.6% dividend yield from today's closing price.

Congrats @VVS.

Hope BBK will reward us well also. Either 20ct interim or at least 90ct final.



Applause Applause Applause I expect 7.50-10 for the final dividend. She 15 is 11.4% DY. smile
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VituVingiSana
#73 Posted : Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:48:24 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
That is my Xmas right there :)
When it comes to dividends; Stanchart itches to pay while DTB is very begrudging

The less said about DTB and dividends the better. The worst dividend payer among banks in the NSE ignoring useless HF. Even Equity is expected to pay She 3-5 for FY20.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#74 Posted : Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:41:56 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
That is my Xmas right there :)
When it comes to dividends; Stanchart itches to pay while DTB is very begrudging

The less said about DTB and dividends the better. The worst dividend payer among banks in the NSE ignoring useless HF. Even Equity is expected to pay She 3-5 for FY20.


FY20; Equity didn't pay any dividend.

If it's FY21 dividend of they will pay ,it's ksh.2-2.50 per share.
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Ericsson
#75 Posted : Wednesday, November 17, 2021 10:38:08 AM
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https://maudhui.co.ke/st...depositors-savings-rate/
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VituVingiSana
#76 Posted : Friday, November 19, 2021 12:25:42 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
That is my Xmas right there :)
When it comes to dividends; Stanchart itches to pay while DTB is very begrudging

The less said about DTB and dividends the better. The worst dividend payer among banks in the NSE ignoring useless HF. Even Equity is expected to pay She 3-5 for FY20.


FY20; Equity didn't pay any dividend.

If it's FY21 dividend of they will pay ,it's ksh.2-2.50 per share.

Do not compare Exciting Equity with Dull DTB.
Equity didn't pay a divided for FY19 when it was looking to buy ATMA units in 4-5 countries.
And then in FY20 is started looking at BCDC ($90mn) so it played it safe.
For FY21 I expect Shs 3-5.

Dull DTB paid 2.60 for FY19 and zero in FY20. Meanwhile, its EPS has stayed the same from 2016-2019. Look at the RoE. It is now less than 10% vs Equity's which is closer to 15% (est FY21)
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#77 Posted : Friday, November 19, 2021 2:07:22 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
That is my Xmas right there :)
When it comes to dividends; Stanchart itches to pay while DTB is very begrudging

The less said about DTB and dividends the better. The worst dividend payer among banks in the NSE ignoring useless HF. Even Equity is expected to pay She 3-5 for FY20.


FY20; Equity didn't pay any dividend.

If it's FY21 dividend of they will pay ,it's ksh.2-2.50 per share.

Do not compare Exciting Equity with Dull DTB.
Equity didn't pay a divided for FY19 when it was looking to buy ATMA units in 4-5 countries.
And then in FY20 is started looking at BCDC ($90mn) so it played it safe.
For FY21 I expect Shs 3-5.

Dull DTB paid 2.60 for FY19 and zero in FY20. Meanwhile, its EPS has stayed the same from 2016-2019. Look at the RoE. It is now less than 10% vs Equity's which is closer to 15% (est FY21)


Lower your expectations,don't look at the EPS look at the amount of money.
At ksh.5 per share,that is expecting Equity to pay ksh.19 billion in dividend.Hiyo ni uwongo mtupu.
At ksh.3 per share that is expecting Equity to pay ksh.11.4bn,that is a possibility but unlikely.
At ksh.2.50 that amounts to ksh.9.5bn,that is a fair estimate.
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#78 Posted : Friday, November 19, 2021 3:24:42 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
That is my Xmas right there :)
When it comes to dividends; Stanchart itches to pay while DTB is very begrudging

The less said about DTB and dividends the better. The worst dividend payer among banks in the NSE ignoring useless HF. Even Equity is expected to pay She 3-5 for FY20.


FY20; Equity didn't pay any dividend.

If it's FY21 dividend of they will pay ,it's ksh.2-2.50 per share.

Do not compare Exciting Equity with Dull DTB.
Equity didn't pay a divided for FY19 when it was looking to buy ATMA units in 4-5 countries.
And then in FY20 is started looking at BCDC ($90mn) so it played it safe.
For FY21 I expect Shs 3-5.

Dull DTB paid 2.60 for FY19 and zero in FY20. Meanwhile, its EPS has stayed the same from 2016-2019. Look at the RoE. It is now less than 10% vs Equity's which is closer to 15% (est FY21)


Lower your expectations,don't look at the EPS look at the amount of money.
At ksh.5 per share,that is expecting Equity to pay ksh.19 billion in dividend.Hiyo ni uwongo mtupu.
At ksh.3 per share that is expecting Equity to pay ksh.11.4bn,that is a possibility but unlikely.
At ksh.2.50 that amounts to ksh.9.5bn,that is a fair estimate.

Let's see. JM said 30-50% of EPS. I will take his word over yours.
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Ericsson
#79 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2022 8:24:53 AM
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Stanchart Kenya FY21
-Total Assets up 2.8% to ksh.334.9bn
-Customer deposits up 3.5% to ksh.265.5bn
-Total Interest Income down 6.1% to ksh.3.5bn
-Loan loss provision down 46.4% to ksh.2bn
-profit before tax up 70.3% to ksh.12.6bn
-Profit after tax up 66.2% to ksh.9bn
-Earnings per share up 68.4% to ksh.23.49
Dividend per share up 80.9% to ksh.19
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Ericsson
#80 Posted : Thursday, April 14, 2022 1:31:19 PM
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Standard Chartered (STAN.L) is completely shutting its business in seven countries in Africa and the Middle East as it seeks to improve profits by narrowing its focus to faster-growing markets in the region, it said on Thursday.

The bank will fully exit Angola, Cameroon, Gambia, Jordan, Lebanon, Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe.

It will also close its retail banking operations in Tanzania and Ivory Coast to focus solely on corporate banking.

The move marks a major shift for Standard Chartered, which has been among the biggest European lenders to invest in the continent in recent years at a time when peers have been withdrawing.
The bank intends to keep investing in Africa and the Middle East but "remain disciplined in our assessment of where we can deliver significantly improved shareholder returns," said Chief Executive Bill Winters.

The cuts would allow it to focus on bigger and faster growing economies in the region, such as Saudi Arabia where it has opened its first branch, and Egypt.

The markets being exited generated around 1% of total income in 2021 and a similar proportion of profit before tax, the bank said. StanChart is currently present in 59 markets and serves clients in a further 83.

It did not immediately comment on the number of job losses as a result of the cuts.
OUT OF AFRICA

StanChart joins the ranks of other global players to reduce their presence in Africa in recent years as they struggle to reach scale compared with incumbent locals while the region's economy has faltered.

It has pursued a strategy of investing heavily in digital banking in Africa but, like other global lenders, found it hard to translate customer acquisition into steady profits.

Barclays (BARC.L) sold its African unit in 2016, ending its 90-year presence on the continent, while Credit Suisse pulled out of its wealth management business in nine African countries this year.

The economy in Sub-Saharan Africa, home to many of the poorest nations on earth, has contracted sharply during the pandemic and has struggled to recover compared with developed economies, many of which have seen a sharp and stimulus-fuelled bounce back.

The International Monetary Fund predicted in October that the region's economy would expand by 3.7%-3.8% this year and last - the slowest recovery relative to other regions around the globe.

Some lenders are still scaling up in Africa, with Deutsche Bank saying last year it will expand its private bank in the region.

https://www.reuters.com/...-middle-east-2022-04-14/
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