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maka wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:EABL Bond, how do you rate it? Still looking at it... Lakini from mapema you can get a better paper in the secondary market....  5 year paper Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,412 Location: NAIROBI
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Angelica _ann wrote:EABL Bond, how do you rate it? Good if you have money and looking for diversification. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,316 Location: Masada
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Ericsson wrote:maka wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:EABL Bond, how do you rate it? Still looking at it... Lakini from mapema you can get a better paper in the secondary market.... 5 year paper Chase bank still fresh in my mind. No for me...CBK anytime. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:Ericsson wrote:maka wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:EABL Bond, how do you rate it? Still looking at it... Lakini from mapema you can get a better paper in the secondary market.... 5 year paper Chase bank still fresh in my mind. No for me...CBK anytime. I also can never touch a corporate bond ever... Apart from the issue you have brought up selling them at the secondary market is a nightmare... While we are here... These are the results for the October auction.  possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 17,811 Location: Nairobi
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Absa breaches lending law in Sh18.8bn loan to EABL https://www.businessdail...8bn-loan-to-eabl-3575148 They need 11bn to pay off an 11bn loan coming due in July 2022. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Absa breaches lending law in Sh18.8bn loan to EABL https://www.businessdail...8bn-loan-to-eabl-3575148 They need 11bn to pay off an 11bn loan coming due in July 2022. Well... Well. They should give us 13.50% 😁 possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 374 Location: Where everyone knows you
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@ maka,
You were correct.
The reopened FXD1/2013/15 came in at 11.882%.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,152 Location: nairobi
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Impunity wrote:Ericsson wrote:maka wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:EABL Bond, how do you rate it? Still looking at it... Lakini from mapema you can get a better paper in the secondary market.... 5 year paper Chase bank still fresh in my mind. No for me...CBK anytime. Apples vs oranges. You cannot equate the two firms surely
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 261,000 ABP 3.49; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/21/2015 Posts: 151
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,875
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EABL Bond oversubscribed 3.5X! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,412 Location: NAIROBI
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Angelica _ann wrote:EABL Bond oversubscribed 3.5X! Weeh Money looking for secure investments. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 374 Location: Where everyone knows you
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CBK announce the offer of 2 Bonds for the month of November.
- Reopened FXD1/2019/20 Coupon rate 12.873%
- New FXD1/2021/5 Coupon rate to be market determined. Probably between 11 & 12 %
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 495 Location: Britain
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MatataMingi wrote:CBK announce the offer of 2 Bonds for the month of November.
- Reopened FXD1/2019/20 Coupon rate 12.873%
- New FXD1/2021/5 Coupon rate to be market determined. Probably between 11 & 12 % Meanwhile, the government is planning to unleash in November the mother of all infrastructure bonds worth Kshs.150B.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,412 Location: NAIROBI
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Queen wrote:MatataMingi wrote:CBK announce the offer of 2 Bonds for the month of November.
- Reopened FXD1/2019/20 Coupon rate 12.873%
- New FXD1/2021/5 Coupon rate to be market determined. Probably between 11 & 12 % Meanwhile, the government is planning to unleash in November the mother of all infrastructure bonds worth Kshs.150B. You mean the one of Kenya Roads Board Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 495 Location: Britain
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Ericsson wrote:Queen wrote:MatataMingi wrote:CBK announce the offer of 2 Bonds for the month of November.
- Reopened FXD1/2019/20 Coupon rate 12.873%
- New FXD1/2021/5 Coupon rate to be market determined. Probably between 11 & 12 % Meanwhile, the government is planning to unleash in November the mother of all infrastructure bonds worth Kshs.150B. You mean the one of Kenya Roads Board Yes, that one.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/2/2010 Posts: 893
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People not interested in shares. Too many dogs. There are more dogs than winners in my portfolio. And if you look at our complete NSE list, the majority are dogs. There are dogs and DOGS.
example of dog (small caps) - DTBK, NMG
example of dog (BIG CAPS) - KPLC, Mumias, ARM, Deacons, HF, KQ, Uchumi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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MatataMingi wrote:CBK announce the offer of 2 Bonds for the month of November.
- Reopened FXD1/2019/20 Coupon rate 12.873%
- New FXD1/2021/5 Coupon rate to be market determined. Probably between 11 & 12 % The implied yield for 1/19/20 is 13.18% … Will try bid its at 13.30 - 13.40. Lets see how things go....:) possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Queen wrote:MatataMingi wrote:CBK announce the offer of 2 Bonds for the month of November.
- Reopened FXD1/2019/20 Coupon rate 12.873%
- New FXD1/2021/5 Coupon rate to be market determined. Probably between 11 & 12 % Meanwhile, the government is planning to unleash in November the mother of all infrastructure bonds worth Kshs.150B. You mean the one of Kenya Roads Board Looks like it will be a shortish paper... Rather medium term instead of a long ended one. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/21/2018 Posts: 495 Location: Britain
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maka wrote:Ericsson wrote:Queen wrote:MatataMingi wrote:CBK announce the offer of 2 Bonds for the month of November.
- Reopened FXD1/2019/20 Coupon rate 12.873%
- New FXD1/2021/5 Coupon rate to be market determined. Probably between 11 & 12 % Meanwhile, the government is planning to unleash in November the mother of all infrastructure bonds worth Kshs.150B. You mean the one of Kenya Roads Board Looks like it will be a shortish paper... Rather medium term instead of a long ended one. Less than 10 years Tenor?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Queen wrote:maka wrote:Ericsson wrote:Queen wrote:MatataMingi wrote:CBK announce the offer of 2 Bonds for the month of November.
- Reopened FXD1/2019/20 Coupon rate 12.873%
- New FXD1/2021/5 Coupon rate to be market determined. Probably between 11 & 12 % Meanwhile, the government is planning to unleash in November the mother of all infrastructure bonds worth Kshs.150B. You mean the one of Kenya Roads Board Looks like it will be a shortish paper... Rather medium term instead of a long ended one. Less than 10 years Tenor? Heard 6.... possunt quia posse videntur
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