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Pure millioneare(PM)
#1 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2021 4:13:10 PM
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smile I got contacted bymy old stock broker about MTN uganda IPO. I had not seen any hullaballo going round about it.
I googled and saw there are selling 6.24ksh a piece and also giving free incentive shares.Liar
I saw the price is 13.9 P/E.

IPO seems driven by regulatory requirements....

Is it a deal or ni ngamwaya khemikal?
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#2 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2021 4:37:49 PM
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Most IPOs are bullshit. Most not all.
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#3 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2021 4:57:21 PM
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KenGen 2006 IPO Price 11.90 Current Price 4.72
KQ 1996 IPO Price 11.25 Current Price suspended
Mumias 2001 IPO Price 6.25 Current Price suspended
Eveready 2006 IPO Price 9.50 Current Price 0.97
Scangroup 2006 IPO Price 10.45 Current Price 4.90
Britam 2011 IPO Price 9.00 Current Price 7.70
NSE 2014 IPO Price 9.50 Current Price 8.38
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#4 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2021 4:58:37 PM
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Safaricom and Equity are exceptions
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#5 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2021 5:42:17 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
KenGen 2006 IPO Price 11.90 Current Price 4.72
KQ 1996 IPO Price 11.25 Current Price suspended
Mumias 2001 IPO Price 6.25 Current Price suspended
Eveready 2006 IPO Price 9.50 Current Price 0.97
Scangroup 2006 IPO Price 10.45 Current Price 4.90
Britam 2011 IPO Price 9.00 Current Price 7.70
NSE 2014 IPO Price 9.50 Current Price 8.38

CIC 2012 IPO Price 3.50 Current price 2.43

Indeed they are bullshit
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#6 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2021 5:43:51 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
Safaricom and Equity are exceptions

Coop bank
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#7 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2021 8:05:38 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
KenGen 2006 IPO Price 11.90 Current Price 4.72
KQ 1996 IPO Price 11.25 Current Price suspended
Mumias 2001 IPO Price 6.25 Current Price suspended
Eveready 2006 IPO Price 9.50 Current Price 0.97
Scangroup 2006 IPO Price 10.45 Current Price 4.90
Britam 2011 IPO Price 9.00 Current Price 7.70
NSE 2014 IPO Price 9.50 Current Price 8.38

CIC 2012 IPO Price 3.50 Current price 2.43

Indeed they are bullshit

This is fraudulent data. KQ rose to KES 118, KEGN touched KES 41, COOP KES 27 including multiple bonus issues

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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#8 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2021 9:45:04 AM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
KenGen 2006 IPO Price 11.90 Current Price 4.72
KQ 1996 IPO Price 11.25 Current Price suspended
Mumias 2001 IPO Price 6.25 Current Price suspended
Eveready 2006 IPO Price 9.50 Current Price 0.97
Scangroup 2006 IPO Price 10.45 Current Price 4.90
Britam 2011 IPO Price 9.00 Current Price 7.70
NSE 2014 IPO Price 9.50 Current Price 8.38

CIC 2012 IPO Price 3.50 Current price 2.43

Indeed they are bullshit

This is fraudulent data. KQ rose to KES 118, KEGN touched KES 41, COOP KES 27 including multiple bonus issues


For past IPO prices - do your research
For current prices - check NSE website

Nothing contentious or fraudulent here.
We are talking IPO prices versus current prices.
NOT high-lows
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#9 Posted : Friday, November 05, 2021 10:36:05 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
KenGen 2006 IPO Price 11.90 Current Price 4.72
KQ 1996 IPO Price 11.25 Current Price suspended
Mumias 2001 IPO Price 6.25 Current Price suspended
Eveready 2006 IPO Price 9.50 Current Price 0.97
Scangroup 2006 IPO Price 10.45 Current Price 4.90
Britam 2011 IPO Price 9.00 Current Price 7.70
NSE 2014 IPO Price 9.50 Current Price 8.38

CIC 2012 IPO Price 3.50 Current price 2.43

Indeed they are bullshit



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#10 Posted : Sunday, November 07, 2021 7:39:01 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
KenGen 2006 IPO Price 11.90 Current Price 4.72
KQ 1996 IPO Price 11.25 Current Price suspended
Mumias 2001 IPO Price 6.25 Current Price suspended
Eveready 2006 IPO Price 9.50 Current Price 0.97
Scangroup 2006 IPO Price 10.45 Current Price 4.90
Britam 2011 IPO Price 9.00 Current Price 7.70
NSE 2014 IPO Price 9.50 Current Price 8.38

CIC 2012 IPO Price 3.50 Current price 2.43

Indeed they are bullshit

This is fraudulent data. KQ rose to KES 118, KEGN touched KES 41, COOP KES 27 including multiple bonus issues


For past IPO prices - do your research
For current prices - check NSE website

Nothing contentious or fraudulent here.
We are talking IPO prices versus current prices.
NOT high-lows

How on earth would you say that IPOs are generally BAD, by current price to listing price comparison. What is that?

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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#11 Posted : Sunday, November 07, 2021 9:12:07 PM
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IPOs are by design priced to benefit issuers rather than buyers.
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#12 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2021 1:29:52 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
IPOs are by design priced to benefit issuers rather than buyers.


I think I can only participate in a central bank of Kenya IPO Now
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#13 Posted : Monday, November 08, 2021 3:03:53 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
KenGen 2006 IPO Price 11.90 Current Price 4.72
KQ 1996 IPO Price 11.25 Current Price suspended
Mumias 2001 IPO Price 6.25 Current Price suspended
Eveready 2006 IPO Price 9.50 Current Price 0.97
Scangroup 2006 IPO Price 10.45 Current Price 4.90
Britam 2011 IPO Price 9.00 Current Price 7.70
NSE 2014 IPO Price 9.50 Current Price 8.38


Seems I was lucky to make some money on these IPOs

Kengen at 11.90 - Sold at 35/-
Scangroup at 10.46 - Sold at 20/-
NSE at 9.50 and - Sold at 23/-
Coop at 6 and sold at 17
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, November 24, 2021 6:43:57 PM
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Kenyan Oracle wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
KenGen 2006 IPO Price 11.90 Current Price 4.72
KQ 1996 IPO Price 11.25 Current Price suspended
Mumias 2001 IPO Price 6.25 Current Price suspended
Eveready 2006 IPO Price 9.50 Current Price 0.97
Scangroup 2006 IPO Price 10.45 Current Price 4.90
Britam 2011 IPO Price 9.00 Current Price 7.70
NSE 2014 IPO Price 9.50 Current Price 8.38


Seems I was lucky to make some money on these IPOs

Kengen at 11.90 - Sold at 35/-
Scangroup at 10.46 - Sold at 20/-
NSE at 9.50 and - Sold at 23/-
Coop at 6 and sold at 17

I also reaped huge in COOP, KENRE, SBU, BoK.. Bought 15,000 MTNU today, fortune favors the bold

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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#15 Posted : Thursday, November 25, 2021 9:43:14 PM
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Pure millioneare(PM) wrote:
smile I got contacted bymy old stock broker about MTN uganda IPO. I had not seen any hullaballo going round about it.
I googled and saw there are selling 6.24ksh a piece and also giving free incentive shares.Liar
I saw the price is 13.9 P/E.

IPO seems driven by regulatory requirements....

Is it a deal or ni ngamwaya khemikal?

We await the listing

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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#16 Posted : Thursday, December 02, 2021 7:59:02 PM
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obiero wrote:
Pure millioneare(PM) wrote:
smile I got contacted bymy old stock broker about MTN uganda IPO. I had not seen any hullaballo going round about it.
I googled and saw there are selling 6.24ksh a piece and also giving free incentive shares.Liar
I saw the price is 13.9 P/E.

IPO seems driven by regulatory requirements....

Is it a deal or ni ngamwaya khemikal?

We await the listing


HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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#17 Posted : Friday, December 03, 2021 8:59:01 PM
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64.8% subscription
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#18 Posted : Friday, December 03, 2021 9:39:42 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
64.8% subscription


Does this signify lack of confidence in the company or lack of liquidity in the market?
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#19 Posted : Saturday, December 04, 2021 8:54:17 AM
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Queen wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
64.8% subscription


Does this signify lack of confidence in the company or lack of liquidity in the market?


Top Ten Shareholders:

Following the Offer and immediately prior to the Listing, the top ten shareholders of MTN Uganda are as follows:


Shareholder Number of Issued Shares Percentage Shareholding
MTN International (Mauritius) Limited 18 594 809 664 83.05%
National Social Security Fund 1 980 000 000 8.84%
Charles Mbire 892 230 775 3.99%
National Social Security Fund – Sanlam 58 590 000 0.26%
Bank of Uganda Defined Benefits Scheme – Sanlam 42 000 000 0.19%
National Social Security Fund (Kenya) – Sanlam 39 180 225 0.18%
Duet Africa Opportunities Master Fund IC 30 000 000 0.13%
EFG Hermes Oman LLC 26 855 500 0.12%
First Rand Bank Limited 22 000 000 0.10%
Uganda Revenue Authority Staff Benefit Scheme – Sanlam 18 900 000 0.08%
Other shareholders 684 478 075 3.06%
Total 22 389 044 239 100%



Lack of confidence in the company.
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Ericsson
#20 Posted : Saturday, December 04, 2021 8:58:47 AM
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Queen wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
64.8% subscription


Does this signify lack of confidence in the company or lack of liquidity in the market?


Results of the Offer:

Offer Shares 4 477 808 848 ordinary shares
Number of Offer Shares allocated (Sale Shares and Incentive Shares) 2 902 003 800 ordinary shares
Total number of Applicants for Offer Shares 21 394
Total Offer Proceeds UGX 535 939 900 000
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