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Metch
#41 Posted : Wednesday, February 03, 2016 2:30:00 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:
Sometimes old trends are just mirages. If I was told to sketch a graph of how Carbacid will move in the year 2016 I would try to show my teacher that it has a chance, big chance to move from 15 currently to 44 kshs by October 2016 nesting for sometime between 27 and 35Ksh. But would we always depend on history to say that Raila will still lose next elections?
The Market especially in Africa will improve as more Europeans come in assuming that Terrorism is global and could as well hit them like happened in Paris. I will invest where I can pay less for labour cost with open market policy and investor friendly tax refunds. Europe will come back as we see Barclays is trying to make Africans happy through their "Go to" friendly policies where repsect and low interest on loan matters.We can see its also moving up and by Feb 2016 it may be at 21 ksh



about 4 weeks to H1 results announcement. any prediction?
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#42 Posted : Wednesday, February 03, 2016 6:55:19 PM
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Metch wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Sometimes old trends are just mirages. If I was told to sketch a graph of how Carbacid will move in the year 2016 I would try to show my teacher that it has a chance, big chance to move from 15 currently to 44 kshs by October 2016 nesting for sometime between 27 and 35Ksh. But would we always depend on history to say that Raila will still lose next elections?
The Market especially in Africa will improve as more Europeans come in assuming that Terrorism is global and could as well hit them like happened in Paris. I will invest where I can pay less for labour cost with open market policy and investor friendly tax refunds. Europe will come back as we see Barclays is trying to make Africans happy through their "Go to" friendly policies where repsect and low interest on loan matters.We can see its also moving up and by Feb 2016 it may be at 21 ksh



about 4 weeks to H1 results announcement. any prediction?


Realtreaty. Answer your fans. Do you still see 44 bob this year?
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#43 Posted : Wednesday, February 03, 2016 9:03:15 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Metch wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Sometimes old trends are just mirages. If I was told to sketch a graph of how Carbacid will move in the year 2016 I would try to show my teacher that it has a chance, big chance to move from 15 currently to 44 kshs by October 2016 nesting for sometime between 27 and 35Ksh. But would we always depend on history to say that Raila will still lose next elections?
The Market especially in Africa will improve as more Europeans come in assuming that Terrorism is global and could as well hit them like happened in Paris. I will invest where I can pay less for labour cost with open market policy and investor friendly tax refunds. Europe will come back as we see Barclays is trying to make Africans happy through their "Go to" friendly policies where repsect and low interest on loan matters.We can see its also moving up and by Feb 2016 it may be at 21 ksh



about 4 weeks to H1 results announcement. any prediction?


Realtreaty. Answer your fans. Do you still see 44 bob this year?

i have been seeing a big order trying to exit at 15bob since Monday
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#44 Posted : Tuesday, November 02, 2021 2:44:00 PM
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#45 Posted : Wednesday, November 03, 2021 7:48:47 AM
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#46 Posted : Wednesday, November 03, 2021 10:23:36 AM
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Skin in the game. If he is buying then you know things are looking good.
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#47 Posted : Wednesday, November 03, 2021 10:24:11 AM
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Balobhai Patel should be given title of an elder or Chief in wazua and be awarded hall of fame.
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Kenyan Oracle
#48 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2021 9:34:54 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Kenyan Oracle wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/companies/billionaire-raises-his-stake-in-carbid-to-49-9-percent-3605692

Skin in the game. If he is buying then you know things are looking good.



Likelihood of a take over are very high. If he misses taking over BOC, he might decide to take full ownership of Carbacid.
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#49 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2021 9:45:11 AM
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Kenyan Oracle wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Kenyan Oracle wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/companies/billionaire-raises-his-stake-in-carbid-to-49-9-percent-3605692

Skin in the game. If he is buying then you know things are looking good.

Likelihood of a take over are very high. If he misses taking over BOC, he might decide to take full ownership of Carbacid.
I would not want to sell at this price. It has a lot of cash which it had kept to be used to buy BOC. The primary business/asset is a cash cow. It has shares whose prices are low but could see gains in the future.

I would rather see an external (not BC) buyer who will pay a fair/full price.
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#50 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2021 10:46:22 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Kenyan Oracle wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/companies/billionaire-raises-his-stake-in-carbid-to-49-9-percent-3605692


Balobhai Patel should be given title of an elder or Chief in wazua and be awarded hall of fame.



Which other firms has Balobhai Patel invested in. He appears to he does his homework well
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#51 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2021 11:16:38 AM
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cyruskulei wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kenyan Oracle wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/companies/billionaire-raises-his-stake-in-carbid-to-49-9-percent-3605692


Balobhai Patel should be given title of an elder or Chief in wazua and be awarded hall of fame.


Which other firms has Balobhai Patel invested in. He appears to he does his homework well


Lafarge Bamburi cement
Co-operative Bank
KCB
ABSA
Sanlam
EABL
Safaricom
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#52 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2021 12:10:40 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kenyan Oracle wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/companies/billionaire-raises-his-stake-in-carbid-to-49-9-percent-3605692


Balobhai Patel should be given title of an elder or Chief in wazua and be awarded hall of fame.


Which other firms has Balobhai Patel invested in. He appears to he does his homework well


Lafarge Bamburi cement
Co-operative Bank
KCB
ABSA
Sanlam
EABL
Safaricom



Thanks alot
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#53 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2021 12:52:18 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kenyan Oracle wrote:
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/corporate/companies/billionaire-raises-his-stake-in-carbid-to-49-9-percent-3605692


Balobhai Patel should be given title of an elder or Chief in wazua and be awarded hall of fame.


Which other firms has Balobhai Patel invested in. He appears to he does his homework well


Lafarge Bamburi cement
Co-operative Bank
KCB
ABSA
Sanlam
EABL
Safaricom

Plus CIC Insurance
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heri
#54 Posted : Wednesday, October 25, 2023 7:32:01 PM
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Good div and coming in Dec . Great

I hope the new borrowings will not be problematic with the rising interest rates

And domestic sales going down
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Kenyan Oracle
#55 Posted : Thursday, October 26, 2023 8:39:19 AM
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heri wrote:
Good div and coming in Dec . Great

I hope the new borrowings will not be problematic with the rising interest rates

And domestic sales going down


Have they announced Dividends?
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#56 Posted : Thursday, October 26, 2023 8:41:17 AM
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heri wrote:
Good div and coming in Dec . Great

I hope the new borrowings will not be problematic with the rising interest rates

And domestic sales going down


How much is the "good" div?
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Kenyan Oracle
#57 Posted : Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:36:51 AM
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Dividend of Kshs. 1.70
Book closure 24th Nov 2023
Payment on 15th Dec 2023

Dividend yield at the market price of Kshs. 15.55 stands at 10.9%
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heri
#58 Posted : Thursday, October 26, 2023 9:39:36 AM
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jawgey wrote:
heri wrote:
Good div and coming in Dec . Great

I hope the new borrowings will not be problematic with the rising interest rates

And domestic sales going down


How much is the "good" div?


I should have clarified I was looking at my ABP which was 12
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#59 Posted : Thursday, October 26, 2023 1:44:27 PM
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heri wrote:
Good div and coming in Dec . Great

I hope the new borrowings will not be problematic with the rising interest rates

And domestic sales going down

Loans: I would not be overly concerned given they have lots of G-Secs (interest and principal) which can be used to pay off the loans. I hope the projects they finance yield ROIs of 15%+ to match government bonds.

I was surprised at the significant drop in domestics sales despite inflation. Times are going to get tougher.

Exports jumped but so did expenses associated with exports eg fuel costs. Also the further the lorries go, the more they wear out.
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