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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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Impunity wrote:KulaRaha wrote:What is the history of the word harambee? I think we took it from the coolie railroad workers, so really, who owns that? @Kularaha Harambee is so Kenyan.The coolies were working in Kenyan at that time and they became Kenyanised.We have almost everything in Kenya named Harambee including Harambee stars, Harambee house, harambee avenue,on our coins,on our court of arms...just everwhere including ndani ya bunge. Impunity, you need to do some research. in hindi, har means "glory be to" and ambee is a hindu female deity, representing strength. Harambee is not Kenyan, its hindu and is still used in temples worldwide. Now, who should sue who? I think we should be proud that supersports chose harambee over a huge choice of words they could have used... Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/27/2008 Posts: 4,114
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MaichBlack wrote:mukiha wrote:Hold on a minute!
Isn't this a good thing?
Have you ever heard the Brits complain that too many countries are using their language as a national language?
Haven't "we" been trying to make Kiswahili an African Language?
If you ask me; this is a good thing.
When the South Africans make these words popular around the globe, some one will one day ask, "from which language is 'Nyama Choma'?" And the answer will be Kiswahili, of course... @Mukiha - The issue is not the language, it's the phrases. More like trade marks. Sometime ago, when someone [in Europe or some other place] said "I'm going on a safari" he/she meant to Kenya - of course. Now that's very powerful when it comes to marketing! Actually: NO. "Safari" was adopted by the Brits and became an English word when I was still in primary school. And that was a long time ago. I do recall visiting the Windsor Safari Park in Berkshire, England some 20 or so years ago. Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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Aki some people are just too much. I'm still in stitches after reading words such as: madondo, mutura, Tumbukiza, mboiro, kashumbari, kienyeji, kichwa GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,452
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mukiha wrote:Actually: NO. "Safari" was adopted by the Brits and became an English word when I was still in primary school. And that was a long time ago. I do recall visiting the Windsor Safari Park in Berkshire, England some 20 or so years ago. Probably owned by a Brit who had a memorable "safari" in Kenya. Now that we have establishments called Casablanca, Monte Carlo, Windsor golf club etc. in Kenya, does that necessarily mean the names originated from Kenya? Of course not! Same applies to Windsor Safari club. Provide more facts to support your argument. Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/26/2007 Posts: 6,514
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safari comes from the arabic safar meaning to make a journey. So now should we pay royalty to the Omanis who brought this word to us? Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/14/2010 Posts: 806 Location: Nairobi
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mukiha wrote:winston wrote:Kiswahili remains one of the biggest potential unifier for the african continent...While other countries are adopting/poaching it someone once (last year?) tried to have it removed from the curriculum! No! You did not understand that issue. Nobody tried to remove it! The issue was: is it fair to require that pupils who take Kenyan Sign Language as a subject to also take Kiswahili? The ministry thought that it was not fair - after all, those who can't speak with a voiced language can't speak Kiswahili [obviously!!!] The mass media, in characteristic fashion, reported that the KNEC wants to remove Kiswahili from the curriculum... and sold very many newspapers as a result!!!! @ Mukiha - Thanks for the clarification
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Ati? I bet we should be alive to the dynamism of the Kiswahili language and be alert to the exploitative tendencies of modern day capitalism. Having said that, I wonder at the speed at which we sign or are forced to sign treaties that come to haunt us later. What do we benefit vis a vis lose from International Property Rights treaty? See with kiondo....
While still at it, we call our dances "traditional", the South Africans call them the real names and promote them as they are. We have our "zumari" vuvuzela but won't market them as zumari but "traditional trumpet". Culture marketing is a very novel idea that Kenya has yet to embrace. We should take a holistic look at our interests in general and devise ways of benefiting optimally.
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