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KCB rights issue
KulaRaha
#111 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:24:30 PM
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I dont think we should get too excited at this stage...

Group PBT up 15%, but group profits lower than bank profits showing subisdiaries are in trouble...

I have a feeling other banks will beat that 15% growth easily...then KCB will look like a laggard...

My price target is 14-15/= post rights.
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muganda
#112 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:33:01 PM
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See the results at KCB Half year results 30 Jun 2010 to confirm @kulaRaha comments.


I'm no longer a shareholder, having recently sold both shares+rights but must agree with @guru267 comment about marketing. Some companies have learnt secret to Coke, Safaricom etc.

guru267 wrote:
This rights issue better be a success... Because with all the marketing then there should be no reason for undersubscription


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Horton
#113 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:48:37 PM
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Would this in future be the perfect takeover target for the big boys? Those of you following international business, I read somewhere that HSBC was snooping around SA, for a takeover target. Would KCB have a similar fate once the recession is officially over In the west?Presence in 6(correct me if I'm wrong) countries. I'm sure that once they stop the expansion, the eps growth should match the equities and stancharts. On the flip side, it is very poorly managed, in terms of ROA and ROIC. with the biggest assets, it should be able to generate much higher pat. Just curious as to the quality of these assets and whether they are what they say they are worth....
sheep
#114 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:53:03 PM
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The rights issue closes on 23rd I think...its strange that theyve thought of releasing the "promising" results this early...ati all branches will break even in the next 6 months...trickery I tell you.
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sparkly
#115 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:09:10 PM
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muganda wrote:

smileReminds me of a lion's mane:
The mane of the adult male lion, unique among cats, is one of the most distinctive characteristics of the species. It makes the lion appear larger, providing an excellent intimidation display


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the deal
#116 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:17:51 PM
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its just a matter of time before JM's EQTY or NIC,Stan Chart..DTB...BBK...CFC..drop their results that 15% PBT will be turned into a mere figure...but its up the market to decide weather KCB has done well...we will see how the share price responds tomorrow. ..
KulaRaha
#117 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:18:33 PM
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KCB can be, and should be, much more profitable than it currently is. The internal inefficiencies just cannot be shaken, as I understand the union runs the bank, and there is constant resistance to change and improvement.

Further, there are staff there who have been hired by virtue of patronage.

I dont think this rights issue will even be fully subscribed, and once the funds check in, dont expect any sudden great improvements in profitability as their inefficiency will not allow them to utilise these funds quickly and effectively enough.
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StatMeister
#118 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:38:04 PM
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If KCB gets the 15b, this can support assets of 125b (their current assets circa 150b).

Literally they want to double their A/L.

Question is, do they want to expand in Kenya (saturated) or rest of africa (loss territory)?
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mkonomtupu
#119 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 7:16:27 PM
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Just looking through the results core capital/total deposit liabilities 10.6% statutory minimum 8%. Liquidity ratio 36.3% This lion has been taking too much deposits. Looks like GOK has to take up its balance of rights issue which was not sold if this lion is to take up more deposits from parastatals. Way too much potential if the rights succeed. Planning to take up double my allocation but I'm also stocking up on NIC just in case KCB does not deliver.
qw25041985
#120 Posted : Tuesday, July 13, 2010 8:39:51 PM
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ON KCB the www.rich.co.ke supremo says :

"Today (13.07.2010)kcb traded 78,700 shares and we are probably now crossing the Nadir in the Price. The Price moved preemptively ahead of a $151m Cash call
[There have not been many that I can recall since 2008] but now looks
set to base out and rebound from what looks like a deeply oversold
Position. Supply was thin today and will probably thin out further......"

Inlay mans language he is congratulating @sparly's investment in KCB because the price is very much oversold and a rally is about to ensue.i am also gettin in KCB tomorrow now i am convinced.

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