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kmucheke
#161 Posted : Tuesday, May 04, 2021 8:10:57 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
I&M closes the acquisition of Orient Bank UG on 30 April


Yes, the acquisition is complete now.
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With the acquisition, I&M takes over loans worth Ushs 255b, and customer deposits worth Ushs 603b held by Orient at its 14 branches countrywide. The bank also has a customer base of 70,000 and a staff component of 340 employees, according to Kumaran Pather, Orient Bank CEO.
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#162 Posted : Tuesday, May 11, 2021 9:59:22 AM
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#163 Posted : Friday, May 21, 2021 7:51:57 AM
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Ericsson
#164 Posted : Thursday, September 02, 2021 2:44:50 PM
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kmucheke wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I&M closes the acquisition of Orient Bank UG on 30 April


Yes, the acquisition is complete now.
LINK
Quote:
With the acquisition, I&M takes over loans worth Ushs 255b, and customer deposits worth Ushs 603b held by Orient at its 14 branches countrywide. The bank also has a customer base of 70,000 and a staff component of 340 employees, according to Kumaran Pather, Orient Bank CEO.



I&M cost of buying Uganda bank rises to Sh4.1 billion
I&M Group has spent Sh4.1 billion to acquire a 90 percent stake in Uganda’s Orient Bank Limited, with the cost rising from the initial estimate of Sh3.6 billion.

The Nairobi Securities Exchange-listed lender says this is after the base price was adjusted to take into account multiple factors.

These include appreciation of the Ugandan shilling against the US dollar, integration support, the short-term financial performance of the subsidiary and the sale of its property.

I&M also agreed to meet the cost of post-completion integration support and to factor in Orient Bank’s net loss or net profit for the period from January 1 until completion.

Sale of the subsidiary’s property in Kampala, Orient Plaza, also weighs in on the transaction price.

I&M made a net profit of Sh284.4 million in Uganda in the half year ended June, up from Sh1.4 million the year before, reflecting the impact of the Orient Bank acquisition.

I&M said the deal has given it access to additional loans worth Sh7.7 billion, deposits (Sh18.2 billion), 70,000 customers, 14 branches and 22 ATMs.

https://www.businessdail...to-sh4-1-billion-3534724
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VituVingiSana
#165 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2021 5:41:41 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
I&M bank making an acquisition in Uganda.
They are acquiring 90% of the issued share capital of Orient Bank Limited,Uganda


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Orient bank launched its services in Uganda in 1993.The bank then acquired Trans-Africa Bank Limited in 2002, which had been declared insolvent by Bank of Uganda.

Through its history, the bank has gone through several ownerships by different entities and individuals. The last acquisition was by the London-headquartered private equity fund 8 Miles, founded by musician Bob Geldof, who acquired a 42 per cent stake in Orient Bank (U) Ltd in 2015. The founders of the bank, led by Ketan Morjaria, hold 49 per cent in the bank.

The remaining shareholding is by individuals Alemayehu Fisseha, the owner of Prime General Supplies, and the Ugandan-based Chinese manufacturer and property developer, Zhong Shuang Quan – each with 4.5 per cent.

In 2019, the bank struggled to make money, turning in a loss of Shs 1 billion from a Shs 5.6 billion profit registered in 2018. Its assets grew to Shs 814 billion in 2019 from Shs 749 billion in 2018, according to the official published financial results.

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The bank seems to operating around 15 branches but some are being merged due to covid. Let's wait and see how many branches I&M will have if the deal goes through and whether they can make profits.
Seems I&M will have to put some cash into it as well so the total investment will be higher than just the purchase price.


An article in The East African states the deal is estimated at $23.4M (Ksh2.34B).
Not a huge stretch for I&M given its profitability even during COVID. 1H 2020 PAT 3.2bn. Assuming this acquisition has been in the works for at least 1 year, the cash may already have been earmarked.


They will reduce dividend payout to raise the cash.

Did I&M reduce the FY2020 vs FY2019 dividend to raise the cash?
What was I&M's FY2019 vs FY2020 2.25/share dividend?

With 1H2021 I&M Holdings PAT of 4.25bn, it can pay 4.1bn for Orient.
IMH can also match 1.125/share (after 1:1 Bonus) dividend, if 2H is similar to 1H, and keep some 2bn as retained earnings IF there is no other major acquisition or purchase/funding of additional shares in subsidiaries. .
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littledove
#166 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2021 7:44:08 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]I&M closes the acquisition of Orient Bank UG on 30 April


Yes, the acquisition is complete now.
LINK
Quote:
With the acquisition, I&M takes over loans worth Ushs 255b, and customer deposits worth Ushs 603b held by Orient at its 14 branches countrywide. The bank also has a customer base of 70,000 and a staff component of 340 employees, according to Kumaran Pather, Orient Bank CEO.



I&M cost of buying Uganda bank rises to Sh4.1 billion
I&M Group has spent Sh4.1 billion to acquire a 90 percent stake in Uganda’s Orient Bank Limited, with the cost rising from the initial estimate of Sh3.6 billion.

The Nairobi Securities Exchange-listed lender says this is after the base price was adjusted to take into account multiple factors.

These include appreciation of the Ugandan shilling against the US dollar, integration support, the short-term financial performance of the subsidiary and the sale of its property.

I&M also agreed to meet the cost of post-completion integration support and to factor in Orient Bank’s net loss or net profit for the period from January 1 until completion.

Sale of the subsidiary’s property in Kampala, Orient Plaza, also weighs in on the transaction price.

I&M made a net profit of Sh284.4 million in Uganda in the half year ended June, up from Sh1.4 million the year before, reflecting the impact of the Orient Bank acquisition.

I&M said the deal has given it access to additional loans worth Sh7.7 billion, deposits (Sh18.2 billion), 70,000 customers, 14 branches and 22 ATMs.

https://www.businessdail...o-sh4-1-billion-3534724[/quote]

Are those figures by business daily accurate? if they are is the deal worth 4billion plus?
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Ericsson
#167 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2021 2:18:14 PM
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littledove wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]I&M closes the acquisition of Orient Bank UG on 30 April


Yes, the acquisition is complete now.
LINK
Quote:
With the acquisition, I&M takes over loans worth Ushs 255b, and customer deposits worth Ushs 603b held by Orient at its 14 branches countrywide. The bank also has a customer base of 70,000 and a staff component of 340 employees, according to Kumaran Pather, Orient Bank CEO.



I&M cost of buying Uganda bank rises to Sh4.1 billion
I&M Group has spent Sh4.1 billion to acquire a 90 percent stake in Uganda’s Orient Bank Limited, with the cost rising from the initial estimate of Sh3.6 billion.

The Nairobi Securities Exchange-listed lender says this is after the base price was adjusted to take into account multiple factors.

These include appreciation of the Ugandan shilling against the US dollar, integration support, the short-term financial performance of the subsidiary and the sale of its property.

I&M also agreed to meet the cost of post-completion integration support and to factor in Orient Bank’s net loss or net profit for the period from January 1 until completion.

Sale of the subsidiary’s property in Kampala, Orient Plaza, also weighs in on the transaction price.

I&M made a net profit of Sh284.4 million in Uganda in the half year ended June, up from Sh1.4 million the year before, reflecting the impact of the Orient Bank acquisition.

I&M said the deal has given it access to additional loans worth Sh7.7 billion, deposits (Sh18.2 billion), 70,000 customers, 14 branches and 22 ATMs.

https://www.businessdail...o-sh4-1-billion-3534724[/quote]

Are those figures by business daily accurate? if they are is the deal worth 4billion plus?

They are very accurate.
You can confirm with the annual report using the link below

https://www.orient-bank.com/annual-reports/
Use exchange rate
1ksh=34 Uganda shillings
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VituVingiSana
#168 Posted : Monday, September 13, 2021 9:47:55 AM
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littledove wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]I&M closes the acquisition of Orient Bank UG on 30 April


Yes, the acquisition is complete now.
LINK
Quote:
With the acquisition, I&M takes over loans worth Ushs 255b, and customer deposits worth Ushs 603b held by Orient at its 14 branches countrywide. The bank also has a customer base of 70,000 and a staff component of 340 employees, according to Kumaran Pather, Orient Bank CEO.



I&M cost of buying Uganda bank rises to Sh4.1 billion
I&M Group has spent Sh4.1 billion to acquire a 90 percent stake in Uganda’s Orient Bank Limited, with the cost rising from the initial estimate of Sh3.6 billion.

The Nairobi Securities Exchange-listed lender says this is after the base price was adjusted to take into account multiple factors.

These include appreciation of the Ugandan shilling against the US dollar, integration support, the short-term financial performance of the subsidiary and the sale of its property.

I&M also agreed to meet the cost of post-completion integration support and to factor in Orient Bank’s net loss or net profit for the period from January 1 until completion.

Sale of the subsidiary’s property in Kampala, Orient Plaza, also weighs in on the transaction price.

I&M made a net profit of Sh284.4 million in Uganda in the half year ended June, up from Sh1.4 million the year before, reflecting the impact of the Orient Bank acquisition.

I&M said the deal has given it access to additional loans worth Sh7.7 billion, deposits (Sh18.2 billion), 70,000 customers, 14 branches and 22 ATMs.

https://www.businessdail...o-sh4-1-billion-3534724[/quote]

Are those figures by business daily accurate? if they are is the deal worth 4billion plus?
That's not an easy question to answer!

I&M is paying 1.1x BV which is a much higher premium than many KE banks are trading at including I&M (0.6x BV)
The 4.1bn that I&M is paying = approx 3.7bn of equity.

Yes, the loans and deposits seem rather low but perhaps that's where I&M can help Orient i.e. new products, new systems, new customers, etc that can profitably boost the topline. It also seems Orient was cutting back on loans, making provisions and cleaning up their books, before the takeover, so the 7.7bn in loans may be clean.

I&M has introduced WhatsApp banking, and a blockchain product, in Rwanda. I think - requires confirmation - that mobile loans will be introduced in Rwanda and Tanzania. Once these are tried and tested then Uganda could a potential market.

I&M's existing clients with businesses in RW, TZ and KE may look to use Orient in UG.
Orient's existing clients may choose I&M in RW, TZ and KE.

RW has been profitable for I&M. Mauritius is up and down. TZ is performing poorly. Where will UG end up?
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Ericsson
#169 Posted : Monday, September 13, 2021 11:14:13 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
littledove wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
kmucheke wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]I&M closes the acquisition of Orient Bank UG on 30 April


Yes, the acquisition is complete now.
LINK
Quote:
With the acquisition, I&M takes over loans worth Ushs 255b, and customer deposits worth Ushs 603b held by Orient at its 14 branches countrywide. The bank also has a customer base of 70,000 and a staff component of 340 employees, according to Kumaran Pather, Orient Bank CEO.



I&M cost of buying Uganda bank rises to Sh4.1 billion
I&M Group has spent Sh4.1 billion to acquire a 90 percent stake in Uganda’s Orient Bank Limited, with the cost rising from the initial estimate of Sh3.6 billion.

The Nairobi Securities Exchange-listed lender says this is after the base price was adjusted to take into account multiple factors.

These include appreciation of the Ugandan shilling against the US dollar, integration support, the short-term financial performance of the subsidiary and the sale of its property.

I&M also agreed to meet the cost of post-completion integration support and to factor in Orient Bank’s net loss or net profit for the period from January 1 until completion.

Sale of the subsidiary’s property in Kampala, Orient Plaza, also weighs in on the transaction price.

I&M made a net profit of Sh284.4 million in Uganda in the half year ended June, up from Sh1.4 million the year before, reflecting the impact of the Orient Bank acquisition.

I&M said the deal has given it access to additional loans worth Sh7.7 billion, deposits (Sh18.2 billion), 70,000 customers, 14 branches and 22 ATMs.

https://www.businessdail...o-sh4-1-billion-3534724[/quote]

Are those figures by business daily accurate? if they are is the deal worth 4billion plus?
That's not an easy question to answer!

I&M is paying 1.1x BV which is a much higher premium than many KE banks are trading at including I&M (0.6x BV)
The 4.1bn that I&M is paying = approx 3.7bn of equity.

Yes, the loans and deposits seem rather low but perhaps that's where I&M can help Orient i.e. new products, new systems, new customers, etc that can profitably boost the topline. It also seems Orient was cutting back on loans, making provisions and cleaning up their books, before the takeover, so the 7.7bn in loans may be clean.

I&M has introduced WhatsApp banking, and a blockchain product, in Rwanda. I think - requires confirmation - that mobile loans will be introduced in Rwanda and Tanzania. Once these are tried and tested then Uganda could a potential market.

I&M's existing clients with businesses in RW, TZ and KE may look to use Orient in UG.
Orient's existing clients may choose I&M in RW, TZ and KE.

RW has been profitable for I&M. Mauritius is up and down. TZ is performing poorly. Where will UG end up?



https://citizentv.co.ke/...l-orient-bank-13099209/

I&M injects ksh.550 million in Orient bank to firm up its capital
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Ericsson
#170 Posted : Saturday, March 19, 2022 4:33:53 PM
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Kenya's I&M Holdings says it's looking for acquisitions in Ethiopia,Zambia and Democratic Republic of Congo.
Says it will use internally generated cash to fund the potential acquisitions.
I&M says it rarely distributes more than 30% in dividends and is in a strong capital position.

Excuse for peanut dividends
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Ericsson
#171 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2022 9:14:29 PM
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I&M is paying too much for the 90% acquisition of Orient bank Uganda.
Loan book ksh.7.7bn
Customer deposits ksh.18.2bn
I&M is set to pay Ksh.5bn or more for the 90% stake
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obiero
#172 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2023 7:05:28 PM
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Horton wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
49 bob per share
And PROFITABLE. And pays a dividend. #respect Applause Applause Applause

COOP, KCB have the same features.. PROFITABLE AND PAY DIVIDENDS


U guys need to hug this out. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

I saw this coming! The current share price of I&M Holdings Plc (IMH) is KES 16.10. IMH closed its last trading day (Thursday, May 25, 2023) at 16.10 KES per share on the Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE), recording a 3.6% drop from its previous closing price of 16.70 KES. I&M began the year with a share price of 17.00 KES but has since lost 5.29% off that price valuation, ranking it 32nd on the NSE in terms of year-to-date performance.

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
MaichBlack
#173 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2023 8:50:59 PM
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obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
49 bob per share
And PROFITABLE. And pays a dividend. #respect Applause Applause Applause

COOP, KCB have the same features.. PROFITABLE AND PAY DIVIDENDS


U guys need to hug this out. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

I saw this coming! The current share price of I&M Holdings Plc (IMH) is KES 16.10. IMH closed its last trading day (Thursday, May 25, 2023) at 16.10 KES per share on the Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE), recording a 3.6% drop from its previous closing price of 16.70 KES. I&M began the year with a share price of 17.00 KES but has since lost 5.29% off that price valuation, ranking it 32nd on the NSE in terms of year-to-date performance.

Sasa @Obiero hizi ni hesabu gani unashida ukitupigia na gained 1.3% lost 3% lost 5% etc.??? Hizi hesabu hata traders hawafanyi juu hiyo ni commission peke yake even if one is a trader.

Una force issues bro!!!Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
obiero
#174 Posted : Friday, May 26, 2023 9:50:10 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
49 bob per share
And PROFITABLE. And pays a dividend. #respect Applause Applause Applause

COOP, KCB have the same features.. PROFITABLE AND PAY DIVIDENDS


U guys need to hug this out. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

I saw this coming! The current share price of I&M Holdings Plc (IMH) is KES 16.10. IMH closed its last trading day (Thursday, May 25, 2023) at 16.10 KES per share on the Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE), recording a 3.6% drop from its previous closing price of 16.70 KES. I&M began the year with a share price of 17.00 KES but has since lost 5.29% off that price valuation, ranking it 32nd on the NSE in terms of year-to-date performance.

Sasa @Obiero hizi ni hesabu gani unashida ukitupigia na gained 1.3% lost 3% lost 5% etc.??? Hizi hesabu hata traders hawafanyi juu hiyo ni commission peke yake even if one is a trader.

Una force issues bro!!!Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

KES 49 to KES 16 is 1.3%? The thing is that some stocks are sold overpriced and investors keep getting trapped at the NSE. As I wrote here on wazua years back, only about 15 listed firms are worth purchase.. Wazua helps others learn!

HF 428,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 15,750 ABP 6.45
MaichBlack
#175 Posted : Sunday, May 28, 2023 6:05:36 PM
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obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
49 bob per share
And PROFITABLE. And pays a dividend. #respect Applause Applause Applause

COOP, KCB have the same features.. PROFITABLE AND PAY DIVIDENDS


U guys need to hug this out. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

I saw this coming! The current share price of I&M Holdings Plc (IMH) is KES 16.10. IMH closed its last trading day (Thursday, May 25, 2023) at 16.10 KES per share on the Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE), recording a 3.6% drop from its previous closing price of 16.70 KES. I&M began the year with a share price of 17.00 KES but has since lost 5.29% off that price valuation, ranking it 32nd on the NSE in terms of year-to-date performance.

Sasa @Obiero hizi ni hesabu gani unashida ukitupigia na gained 1.3% lost 3% lost 5% etc.??? Hizi hesabu hata traders hawafanyi juu hiyo ni commission peke yake even if one is a trader.

Una force issues bro!!!Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

KES 49 to KES 16 is 1.3%? The thing is that some stocks are sold overpriced and investors keep getting trapped at the NSE. As I wrote here on wazua years back, only about 15 listed firms are worth purchase.. Wazua helps others learn!

I am responding to what you posted. Re-read it.
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
MaichBlack
#176 Posted : Sunday, May 28, 2023 6:07:13 PM
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obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
Horton wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
49 bob per share
And PROFITABLE. And pays a dividend. #respect Applause Applause Applause

COOP, KCB have the same features.. PROFITABLE AND PAY DIVIDENDS


U guys need to hug this out. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

I saw this coming! The current share price of I&M Holdings Plc (IMH) is KES 16.10. IMH closed its last trading day (Thursday, May 25, 2023) at 16.10 KES per share on the Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE), recording a 3.6% drop from its previous closing price of 16.70 KES. I&M began the year with a share price of 17.00 KES but has since lost 5.29% off that price valuation, ranking it 32nd on the NSE in terms of year-to-date performance.

Sasa @Obiero hizi ni hesabu gani unashida ukitupigia na gained 1.3% lost 3% lost 5% etc.??? Hizi hesabu hata traders hawafanyi juu hiyo ni commission peke yake even if one is a trader.

Una force issues bro!!!Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

KES 49 to KES 16 is 1.3%? The thing is that some stocks are sold overpriced and investors keep getting trapped at the NSE. As I wrote here on wazua years back, only about 15 listed firms are worth purchase.. Wazua helps others learn!

And those firm include HF and KQ????

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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