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Exchange Bar: Results forecast
VituVingiSana
#2341 Posted : Friday, August 27, 2021 9:57:42 AM
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obiero wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2021, PBT figures in KES B:
EQTY 24.6 Actual 23.8
KCB 21.4. Actual 21.9
COOP 12.2 Actual 10.5
ABSA 8.1 Actual 7.94
NCBA 7.2
SCBK 6.9. Actual 6.8
DTB 5.9 Actual 4.88
STANB 5.8 Actual 4.82
I&M 4.9
HFCK 0.1

Well done. Most of your numbers have been within the ballpark.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#2342 Posted : Friday, August 27, 2021 10:48:21 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2021, PBT figures in KES B:
EQTY 24.6 Actual 23.8
KCB 21.4. Actual 21.9
COOP 12.2 Actual 10.5
ABSA 8.1 Actual 7.94
NCBA 7.2
SCBK 6.9. Actual 6.8
DTB 5.9 Actual 4.88
STANB 5.8 Actual 4.82
I&M 4.9
HFCK 0.1 Actual-0.317




ABSA 7.94bn
DTB 4.88bn

HFCK not making a profit anytime soon.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#2343 Posted : Friday, August 27, 2021 10:23:38 PM
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Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2021, PBT figures in KES B:
EQTY 24.6 Actual 23.8
KCB 21.4. Actual 21.9
COOP 12.2 Actual 10.5
ABSA 8.1 Actual 7.94
NCBA 7.2
SCBK 6.9. Actual 6.8
DTB 5.9 Actual 4.88
STANB 5.8 Actual 4.82
I&M 4.9
HFCK 0.1 Actual-0.317
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 30,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92
obiero
#2344 Posted : Friday, August 27, 2021 10:25:17 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2021, PBT figures in KES B:
EQTY 24.6 Actual 23.8
KCB 21.4. Actual 21.9
COOP 12.2 Actual 10.5
ABSA 8.1 Actual 7.94
NCBA 7.2
SCBK 6.9. Actual 6.8
DTB 5.9 Actual 4.88
STANB 5.8 Actual 4.82
I&M 4.9
HFCK 0.1 Actual-0.317




ABSA 7.94bn
DTB 4.88bn

HFCK not making a profit anytime soon.

The run rate suggests that it is not very rosy right now
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 30,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92
Ericsson
#2345 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2021 11:32:36 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2021, PBT figures in KES B:
EQTY 24.6 Actual 23.8
KCB 21.4. Actual 21.9
COOP 12.2 Actual 10.5
ABSA 8.1 Actual 7.94
NCBA 7.2 Actual 7.4
SCBK 6.9. Actual 6.8
DTB 5.9 Actual 4.88
STANB 5.8 Actual 4.82
I&M 4.9. Actual 5.87
HFCK 0.1 Actual-0.317



NCBA 7.4bn
I&M 5.87bn
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
maka
#2346 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2021 12:27:36 PM
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Posts: 11,474
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2021, PBT figures in KES B:
EQTY 24.6 Actual 23.8
KCB 21.4. Actual 21.9
COOP 12.2 Actual 10.5
ABSA 8.1 Actual 7.94
NCBA 7.2
SCBK 6.9. Actual 6.8
DTB 5.9 Actual 4.88
STANB 5.8 Actual 4.82
I&M 4.9
HFCK 0.1 Actual-0.317




ABSA 7.94bn
DTB 4.88bn

HFCK not making a profit anytime soon.

The run rate suggests that it is not very rosy right now



How badly off are they?
possunt quia posse videntur
Ericsson
#2347 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2021 1:12:03 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 9,920
Location: NAIROBI
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2021, PBT figures in KES B:
EQTY 24.6 Actual 23.8
KCB 21.4. Actual 21.9
COOP 12.2 Actual 10.5
ABSA 8.1 Actual 7.94
NCBA 7.2
SCBK 6.9. Actual 6.8
DTB 5.9 Actual 4.88
STANB 5.8 Actual 4.82
I&M 4.9
HFCK 0.1 Actual-0.317




ABSA 7.94bn
DTB 4.88bn

HFCK not making a profit anytime soon.

The run rate suggests that it is not very rosy right now



How badly off are they?

Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#2348 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2021 7:46:50 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 17,584
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2021, PBT figures in KES B:
EQTY 24.6 Actual 23.8
KCB 21.4. Actual 21.9
COOP 12.2 Actual 10.5
ABSA 8.1 Actual 7.94
NCBA 7.2 Actual 7.4
SCBK 6.9. Actual 6.8
DTB 5.9 Actual 4.88
STANB 5.8 Actual 4.82
I&M 4.9. Actual 5.87
HFCK 0.1 Actual-0.317



NCBA 7.4bn
I&M 5.87bn

@Obiero did you flip the estimates for I&M vs DTB?

Or has I&M stolen a march over DTB in 2021?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mlennyma
#2349 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2021 9:51:50 PM
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obiero wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2021, PBT figures in KES B:
EQTY 24.6 Actual 23.8
KCB 21.4. Actual 21.9
COOP 12.2 Actual 10.5
ABSA 8.1 Actual 7.94
NCBA 7.2
SCBK 6.9. Actual 6.8
DTB 5.9 Actual 4.88
STANB 5.8 Actual 4.82
I&M 4.9
HFCK 0.1 Actual-0.317


Good predictions, can try betting as well
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
obiero
#2350 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2021 10:02:06 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2021, PBT figures in KES B:
EQTY 24.6 Actual 23.8
KCB 21.4. Actual 21.9
COOP 12.2 Actual 10.5
ABSA 8.1 Actual 7.94
NCBA 7.2 Actual 7.4
SCBK 6.9. Actual 6.8
DTB 5.9 Actual 4.88
STANB 5.8 Actual 4.82
I&M 4.9. Actual 5.87
HFCK 0.1 Actual-0.317



NCBA 7.4bn
I&M 5.87bn

@Obiero did you flip the estimates for I&M vs DTB?

Or has I&M stolen a march over DTB in 2021?

Blame it on the al…..
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 30,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92
obiero
#2351 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2021 10:03:42 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,950
Location: nairobi
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2021, PBT figures in KES B:
EQTY 24.6 Actual 23.8
KCB 21.4. Actual 21.9
COOP 12.2 Actual 10.5
ABSA 8.1 Actual 7.94
NCBA 7.2 Actual 7.4
SCBK 6.9. Actual 6.8
DTB 5.9 Actual 4.88
STANB 5.8 Actual 4.82
I&M 4.9. Actual 5.87
HFCK 0.1 Actual-0.317
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 30,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92
mlennyma
#2352 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2021 10:07:57 PM
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obiero wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2021, PBT figures in KES B:
EQTY 24.6 Actual 23.8
KCB 21.4. Actual 21.9
COOP 12.2 Actual 10.5
ABSA 8.1 Actual 7.94
NCBA 7.2 Actual 7.4
SCBK 6.9. Actual 6.8
DTB 5.9 Actual 4.88
STANB 5.8 Actual 4.82
I&M 4.9. Actual 5.87
HFCK 0.1 Actual-0.317


only NCBA gave. 75cts interim
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
VituVingiSana
#2353 Posted : Tuesday, August 31, 2021 7:46:09 AM
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Posts: 17,584
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mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2021, PBT figures in KES B:
EQTY 24.6 Actual 23.8
KCB 21.4. Actual 21.9
COOP 12.2 Actual 10.5
ABSA 8.1 Actual 7.94
NCBA 7.2 Actual 7.4
SCBK 6.9. Actual 6.8
DTB 5.9 Actual 4.88
STANB 5.8 Actual 4.82
I&M 4.9. Actual 5.87
HFCK 0.1 Actual-0.317

only NCBA gave. 75cts interim
Probably to make up for canceling the dividend in 2020. Didn't NCBA cancel the entire dividend in 2020 for FY2019?

Didn't Stanbic announce an interim div for 2021?

In 2020
SCBK paid 50% of what was declared.
I&M and Stanbic paid.
Equity canceled but bought BCDC.

Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#2354 Posted : Tuesday, August 31, 2021 8:44:26 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,950
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
obiero wrote:
Exchange Bar Quarterly Forecast for Q2 2021, PBT figures in KES B:
EQTY 24.6 Actual 23.8
KCB 21.4. Actual 21.9
COOP 12.2 Actual 10.5
ABSA 8.1 Actual 7.94
NCBA 7.2 Actual 7.4
SCBK 6.9. Actual 6.8
DTB 5.9 Actual 4.88
STANB 5.8 Actual 4.82
I&M 4.9. Actual 5.87
HFCK 0.1 Actual-0.317

only NCBA gave. 75cts interim
Probably to make up for canceling the dividend in 2020. Didn't NCBA cancel the entire dividend in 2020 for FY2019?

Didn't Stanbic announce an interim div for 2021?

In 2020
SCBK paid 50% of what was declared.
I&M and Stanbic paid.
Equity canceled but bought BCDC.


What did COOP and KCB do?
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 30,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92
obiero
#2355 Posted : Sunday, October 03, 2021 12:39:57 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 12,950
Location: nairobi
Exchange Bar Q3 2021, PBT in KES B:
EQTY 35.7
KCB 34.1
COOP 16.6
ABSA 12.4
NCBA 10.7
SCBK 10.1
I&M 8.7
STBC 7.8
DTB 7.6
HFCK -0.33

ABSA is reborn, DTB is dying, HF is about to move from ICU to HDU, big three combined PBT for the year to cross KES 100B this year for the first time since the beginning of time. Covid is over! I speak in code
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 30,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92
Ericsson
#2356 Posted : Sunday, October 03, 2021 11:11:18 PM
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Posts: 9,920
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
Exchange Bar Q3 2021, PBT in KES B:
EQTY 35.7
KCB 34.1
COOP 16.6
ABSA 12.4
NCBA 10.7
SCBK 10.1
I&M 8.7
STBC 7.8
DTB 7.6
HFCK -0.33

ABSA is reborn, DTB is dying, HF is about to move from ICU to HDU, big three combined PBT for the year to cross KES 100B this year for the first time since the beginning of time. Covid is over! I speak in code


ABSA shares is a buy for me when it's share price falls

The loss of HFCK will be wider than the figure you have quoted.
HY2021 the loss was that figure you have quoted for Q3
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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