I am not on your side - I have never been a proponent of lockdowns! I have been a proponent of 'measures' to control the disease. Social Distancing especially! Simple things like wearing masks when you are in large groups of people (not alone outside or in a car when you are on your own). commonsense measures! what you do is profess that this is not a serious disease! I am not on your side on that one. I am not a proponent of walking into bars full of drunkards who all have just come from God knows where singing to their heart's content! No!

On getting infected to get antibodies - you should research a bit on how the immune system works and you will realize that naturally acquired antibodies are not the best simply because of how the immune system works.

Let me try and give you a crash course. The immune system responds to parts of the virus - not the whole virus. to be exact - the immune system responds to proteins! foreign proteins! The virus is extremely long (30,000 bases long) and it has lots of proteins. So your body's immune system's job is to identify any of the foreign proteins and say - hey! this is new! we don't know it... let's create antibodies to neutralize it! what then happens is that when this exact protein is found in your system - it is nuked by the antibodies.

The problem comes with mutations! a mutation in the 30,000 bases that generate these proteins MAY generate a virus with a small difference (the protein which your body is honed to attack). this new virus will come into your body and the immune system will not respond as expected! That is what is happening in India! most indians got the wild version of the disease last year... 56% of persons in new Delhi have antibodies/t-cells that remember the proteins from the wild version of the disease... But a new variant has shown up which has different proteins and their immune systems have to go back to square one. IT'S AS IF THEY NEVER HAD THE DISEASE! Have you ever wondered why HIV never goes? HIV tests are tests to detect antibodies but the virus is never extingushied! the f*cker keeps on mutating... even common flu does this often... mutations. I got a flu shot this year that is based on all known flu viruses but you can be sure that some mutant will hit me in the future.

How are vaccines different you ask... well! they have engineered them so that the protein that is generated is not a random one but rather related to a fundermental part of the virus. a mutation on it would change the characteristic of the virus. in this particular one protein that is related to such things as infection! the S-protein! Vaccines say dump your body with these proteins or cause these proteins to be generated. Your body says - if you see this exact protein (not any random protein generated by the 30,000 bases)... deal with it. it's more fine-tuned.

if a mutation takes place in this protein - the virus with this mutation may not bind on to our cells effectively... of course, if it does... we are in trouble!

stop with the insults

This are not insults. I am just seeing some common characteristics of a person with the conditions that I have mentioned.
From the beginning of this thread I have categorically stated that the infection will be controlled by common sence rather than useless terminology and mathematics.
Not that we can't base our arguments on technical stuff. we can but it's tedious to read or write and in real sence nobody here cares.
For a moment there I had seen you had seen the light only to backtrack and go back to your small cocoon of useless myths and legends.
My simple argument has been. Corona won't be the same her in Africa as is in the west because of (but not limited) a few reasons I mention below
1. Majority of the population is very young.
2.majority of the unhealthy people in Africa are already dead due to lack of proper health care system. That's why most of the deaths are from "we know where"
3. We are a hardened lot that grannies 100 years old are healing. For you to reach that kind of age in Africa you will have to endure a lot and Corona will be as easy as passing wind.
4. Etc.. etc.
Sasa wewe you come here to share your madness ati mutations this , basses 20k.. sasa hio unaambia nani? And how does it add value to a worried lot?

Me thinks we shall be better off and richer in knowledge if we restrict our discussion to the topic.

Who said what,where,why,who used figures and pie charts etc is not necessary.

@Mpobiz I also think its not right to beliitle this disease when we know many have lost their lives through it.Yes other diseases kill but there is a way COVID is striking that is scaring.

Let us share messages of hope and ways to help ourselves.

https://m.facebook.com/s...&id=100001779485530

I have said it here so many times that this lockdowns and the government spreading of fear has ulterior motives

Corruption has began with vaccine. Just from the center and they refused to give me a jab na excuse za ujinga. No one waiting and the say they are only giving second jab. How come raila was given first jab yesterday? We gave space to the elderly and government people last time, now its risking our lives now unless the top guy at health gets his "target" amount, no jab, its better they expire than him not getting "rich". We need a revolution!

vaccines are just spectacles or any other knowledge based aid in life, usaimbie mtu asivae specs juu wewe unaziogopa.

An "enterprising" Ugandan decided to collect used Covid vaccine vials, fill them with tap water and administer jabs to the public at a fee. He was working with real nurses and even issued vaccination certificates.

At first it was thought he injected 800 people, but the number may be as high as 20,000.

Imagine walking around confidently after being injected with tap water.
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curfew lifted
It's good. But apart from ruining the economy,I did not see any health benefits here in this country.

Revelations revelations and more new revelations. I miss magufuli. Our drunk here was busy locking up everything because they knew it was a gimmick and that gave them a space to steal.
Some of my baddest debates in this forum was on this topic where I faced a lot of opposition just because we could see what was being played behind the curtains.
Now it's all out in the open.
I hope wazua lives forever and nobody can delete their posts so as to serve as a record to avoid future idiotic behaviour.
Some of the posts here are a clear testament that intelligence is not in education and vice versa.