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KCB or Equity Bank?
Ericsson
#141 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2019 1:46:13 PM
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watesh wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
Leo it seems Equity bank has woken up with a huge demand.





Member looking to take down the whole of Septembers trading volumes,35M, in one dayd'oh!




Someone must be exiting big

Probably,then the road down continues
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#142 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2019 2:34:25 PM
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watesh wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
cyruskulei wrote:
Leo it seems Equity bank has woken up with a huge demand.





Member looking to take down the whole of Septembers trading volumes,35M, in one dayd'oh!




Someone must be exiting big


NSE is a tiny market when compared with the likes of NYSE, any so called big investor in the bourse can be bought out with lots of ease.
Approaching trading vols of 40M as we speak, just shy by 1M, doing roughly 80% of the turnovers today.
And yes, the exiting seller seems to have big volumes. Can be worrying if not matched by buyers. We wait to see the direction the stock takes.
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Sir invest
#143 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2019 4:25:33 PM
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Keep off from EQUITY for now......these are ripple effects of the resent entrants into new markets which are deemed risky.
Extraterrestrial
#144 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2019 4:37:59 PM
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The possibility that widespread support for retention of the rate crap could lead to successful defiance of the President's directive. Are we going to see another Business Daily headline, "Investors burn fingers in rate cap gamble"?
Ericsson
#145 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2019 4:51:34 PM
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The rally seen today might be a pump and dump scheme then wait for the share prices to drop again and load more.
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Ericsson
#146 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2019 5:02:18 PM
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Extraterrestrial wrote:
The possibility that widespread support for retention of the rate crap could lead to successful defiance of the President's directive. Are we going to see another Business Daily headline, "Investors burn fingers in rate cap gamble"?


Now they are heading to Zimbabwe;
"According to several Zimbabwe media outlets, Equity Group Holdings (EGH) intends to resume talks to acquire Zimbabwean lender BancABC (Zimbabwe) a wholly-owned subsidiary of Atlas Mara".

https://kenyanwallstreet...talks-to-enter-zimbabwe/
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lochaz-index
#147 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2019 6:11:19 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Extraterrestrial wrote:
The possibility that widespread support for retention of the rate crap could lead to successful defiance of the President's directive. Are we going to see another Business Daily headline, "Investors burn fingers in rate cap gamble"?


Now they are heading to Zimbabwe;
"According to several Zimbabwe media outlets, Equity Group Holdings (EGH) intends to resume talks to acquire Zimbabwean lender BancABC (Zimbabwe) a wholly-owned subsidiary of Atlas Mara".

https://kenyanwallstreet...alks-to-enter-zimbabwe/

Is it becoming a case of too much too soon for Equity?
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
VituVingiSana
#148 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2019 7:47:29 PM
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lochaz-index wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Extraterrestrial wrote:
The possibility that widespread support for retention of the rate crap could lead to successful defiance of the President's directive. Are we going to see another Business Daily headline, "Investors burn fingers in rate cap gamble"?


Now they are heading to Zimbabwe;
"According to several Zimbabwe media outlets, Equity Group Holdings (EGH) intends to resume talks to acquire Zimbabwean lender BancABC (Zimbabwe) a wholly-owned subsidiary of Atlas Mara".

https://kenyanwallstreet...alks-to-enter-zimbabwe/

Is it becoming a case of too much too soon for Equity?
John Staley may remain in charge of consolidating/integrating these units into Equity. He is ex-Equity and could be the secret weapon in the integration.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
watesh
#149 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2019 9:57:20 PM
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lochaz-index wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Extraterrestrial wrote:
The possibility that widespread support for retention of the rate crap could lead to successful defiance of the President's directive. Are we going to see another Business Daily headline, "Investors burn fingers in rate cap gamble"?


Now they are heading to Zimbabwe;
"According to several Zimbabwe media outlets, Equity Group Holdings (EGH) intends to resume talks to acquire Zimbabwean lender BancABC (Zimbabwe) a wholly-owned subsidiary of Atlas Mara".

https://kenyanwallstreet...alks-to-enter-zimbabwe/

Is it becoming a case of too much too soon for Equity?

I dont think so, they are relatively small countries so they shouldn't be much of a hassle. I think its more of not wanting to overpay for the Zimbabwe unit due to the ongoing hyperinflation. Those assets can lose value really fast if they entered at the wrong timing.
MaichBlack
#150 Posted : Friday, October 18, 2019 10:45:26 AM
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Extraterrestrial wrote:
The possibility that widespread support for retention of the rate crap could lead to successful defiance of the President's directive. Are we going to see another Business Daily headline, "Investors burn fingers in rate cap gamble"?

When was the last time the MPs successfully defied this president. And now he has RAO in his camp!!!

This is a president who managed to force the MPs to pass taxes on extremely essential products that they were openly against taxing!! And he was less powerful then!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
Ericsson
#151 Posted : Sunday, October 20, 2019 9:29:38 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
The rally seen today might be a pump and dump scheme then wait for the share prices to drop again and load more.

Shares worth USD 5.7mn (KES 590.1mn) being sold by foreign investors and bought by local investors
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Horton
#152 Posted : Monday, October 21, 2019 3:42:12 PM
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lochaz-index wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Extraterrestrial wrote:
The possibility that widespread support for retention of the rate crap could lead to successful defiance of the President's directive. Are we going to see another Business Daily headline, "Investors burn fingers in rate cap gamble"?


Now they are heading to Zimbabwe;
"According to several Zimbabwe media outlets, Equity Group Holdings (EGH) intends to resume talks to acquire Zimbabwean lender BancABC (Zimbabwe) a wholly-owned subsidiary of Atlas Mara".

https://kenyanwallstreet...alks-to-enter-zimbabwe/

Is it becoming a case of too much too soon for Equity?



So zim is wasnt a part of the recent Atlas Mara deal 🤦🏽‍♂️

But with hyper inflation I don’t get the obsession of entering this market. Im sure (or at least I hope) they have done their homework on this

Dividend investors, looks like a dry spell coming soon or a rights
Ericsson
#153 Posted : Wednesday, January 29, 2020 4:33:23 PM
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About 17 per cent of Kenya Commercial Bank has been loaned out to real estate while Equity Bank has given 23 per cent of their book to housing loans. Cooperative Bank has packed 12 per cent of their loan book in housing.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
mlennyma
#154 Posted : Friday, June 18, 2021 12:54:26 PM
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Although they have paid no dividend for 2yrs this share is promising to deliver the capital gains,now above the 52wk high
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Angelica _ann
#155 Posted : Saturday, October 21, 2023 9:39:00 AM
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KCB currently on the downwards trend, Equity holding on!
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VituVingiSana
#156 Posted : Monday, October 23, 2023 3:01:47 PM
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cnn wrote:
KCB touching a high of 43.90 and Equity bank doing more than 6 million shares in today's early trading .

One upon a time about 4 years ago!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
littledove
#157 Posted : Monday, October 30, 2023 12:44:00 PM
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just bought a sizeable volume of kcb at 18, hope results won't be that bad
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
VituVingiSana
#158 Posted : Monday, October 30, 2023 1:49:36 PM
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littledove wrote:
just bought a sizeable volume of kcb at 18, hope results won't be that bad

Good luck!

- More NPLs loading as yields rise making it harder for borrowers to service their loans.
- Losses in the Bond portfolio as interest rates rise.

Of course, at a certain level/price buying KCB will look very good but what is that price?
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shocks
#159 Posted : Tuesday, October 31, 2023 3:04:05 PM
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What exactly has spoked investors, is Ruto dishing Kanu era political loans from this bank, is that even possible in this era we are in?
My 2 cents
#160 Posted : Tuesday, October 31, 2023 3:35:41 PM
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shocks wrote:
What exactly has spoked investors, is Ruto dishing Kanu era political loans from this bank, is that even possible in this era we are in?


Investors are spooked across all NSE shares. They are moving to other asset classes. US Dollars and Bonds.
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