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Williamson Tea & Kapchorua
VituVingiSana
#41 Posted : Thursday, February 20, 2020 8:29:46 PM
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Superprime1 wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Six-month tea export earnings fall by Sh100m

https://www.businessdail...1822-1cs4djz/index.html

It's going to be very, very ugly for WTK and KTC

Indeed, it'll be very ugly, and messy, this time! What to do, na tuko ndani? d'oh!
I will just wait it out. I bought these for the long-term and the cycle is a given. I got some great dividends over the years.
I look at it like a farm. Unless I am abandoning farming, I do not buy/sell my farm every year depending on the harvest.
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Jon Jones
#42 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2020 5:58:03 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Six-month tea export earnings fall by Sh100m

https://www.businessdail...1822-1cs4djz/index.html

It's going to be very, very ugly for WTK and KTC


From 49.3 billion to 49.2 billion. That is a rounding error. 100 million is a large sum but a drop in the ocean in this context. So earnings were flat basically.
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#43 Posted : Friday, April 17, 2020 11:35:27 PM
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Jon Jones wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Six-month tea export earnings fall by Sh100m

https://www.businessdail...1822-1cs4djz/index.html

It's going to be very, very ugly for WTK and KTC


From 49.3 billion to 49.2 billion. That is a rounding error. 100 million is a large sum but a drop in the ocean in this context. So earnings were flat basically.



I’m curious what the erratic KES will do to the WTK/KAPCH earnings
sparkly
#44 Posted : Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:29:42 PM
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Horton wrote:
Jon Jones wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Six-month tea export earnings fall by Sh100m

https://www.businessdail...1822-1cs4djz/index.html

It's going to be very, very ugly for WTK and KTC


From 49.3 billion to 49.2 billion. That is a rounding error. 100 million is a large sum but a drop in the ocean in this context. So earnings were flat basically.



I’m curious what the erratic KES will do to the WTK/KAPCH earnings


A week shilling is good for exporters since they are paid in dollars.
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VituVingiSana
#45 Posted : Saturday, April 18, 2020 10:48:32 PM
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sparkly wrote:
Horton wrote:
Jon Jones wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Six-month tea export earnings fall by Sh100m

https://www.businessdail...1822-1cs4djz/index.html

It's going to be very, very ugly for WTK and KTC


From 49.3 billion to 49.2 billion. That is a rounding error. 100 million is a large sum but a drop in the ocean in this context. So earnings were flat basically.



I’m curious what the erratic KES will do to the WTK/KAPCH earnings

A week shilling is good for exporters since they are paid in dollars.
They prefer a "weak" shilling Laughing out loudly
On a serious note, sales (quantity) may be down given the restrictions on shipping goods. Also the cost of transport from Nandi to Mombasa is higher given the restricted hours for lorries on the road.

Tough times for all.
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obiero
#46 Posted : Sunday, April 19, 2020 9:57:48 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Horton wrote:
Jon Jones wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Six-month tea export earnings fall by Sh100m

https://www.businessdail...1822-1cs4djz/index.html

It's going to be very, very ugly for WTK and KTC


From 49.3 billion to 49.2 billion. That is a rounding error. 100 million is a large sum but a drop in the ocean in this context. So earnings were flat basically.



I’m curious what the erratic KES will do to the WTK/KAPCH earnings

A week shilling is good for exporters since they are paid in dollars.
They prefer a "weak" shilling Laughing out loudly
On a serious note, sales (quantity) may be down given the restrictions on shipping goods. Also the cost of transport from Nandi to Mombasa is higher given the restricted hours for lorries on the road.

Tough times for all.

Extremely tough times

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Ebenyo
#47 Posted : Wednesday, July 01, 2020 11:37:31 AM
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anyone with a clue as when the results will be out?
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Balaa
#48 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2020 10:28:02 AM
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Is there a material announcement? WTK touched high of KES 141 today, up from previous closing price of KES 128.25. Current offer price is @KES 220.

Results anyone?
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Ebenyo
#49 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2020 10:36:11 AM
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Balaa wrote:
Is there a material announcement? WTK touched high of KES 141 today, up from previous closing price of KES 128.25. Current offer price is @KES 220.

Results anyone?





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littledove
#50 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2020 10:56:36 AM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Balaa wrote:
Is there a material announcement? WTK touched high of KES 141 today, up from previous closing price of KES 128.25. Current offer price is @KES 220.

Results anyone?





Results are out kshs 20 dps.Wacha @Ericson atapost

very generous company
books closure for div 18th august
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Balaa
#51 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2020 1:01:47 PM
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littledove wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Balaa wrote:
Is there a material announcement? WTK touched high of KES 141 today, up from previous closing price of KES 128.25. Current offer price is @KES 220.

Results anyone?





Results are out kshs 20 dps.Wacha @Ericson atapost

very generous company
books closure for div 18th august


Applause @Ebenyo & littledove.

Kweli WTK haichezi ligi ndogo. It's been faithful to us. But wonder for how long?
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#52 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2020 5:00:41 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Balaa wrote:
Is there a material announcement? WTK touched high of KES 141 today, up from previous closing price of KES 128.25. Current offer price is @KES 220.

Results anyone?





Results are out kshs 20 dps.Wacha @Ericson atapost


https://kenyanwallstreet...-hits-ksh-137-2-million/
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VituVingiSana
#53 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2020 7:43:44 PM
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The dividend is a unexpected but welcome surprise given the awful price of tea in 2019-2020.
The dividend at the same level as last year is Applause

Maintaining the dividend in 2020-2021 is up in the air given the 2020 prices of tea are currently lower than 2019. Add the drama in importing countries coupled with COVID.

2020-21 will be very tough. https://www.businessdail...4484-mpveeqz/index.html

No complaints for 2019-20! Quite happy with this news.
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Balaa
#54 Posted : Wednesday, July 22, 2020 1:51:15 PM
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Results
https://www.nse.co.ke/issuer-announcements.html
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Ebenyo
#55 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2020 4:29:32 PM
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https://kenyanwallstreet...sembly-passes-tea-bill/

will this make an impact in williamson productivity?
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VituVingiSana
#56 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2020 9:22:28 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
https://kenyanwallstreet.com/national-assembly-passes-tea-bill/

will this make an impact in williamson productivity?

WTK's farms will not be affected. Perhaps it may have to pay more to buy tea leaf from outgrowers.
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VituVingiSana
#57 Posted : Friday, December 04, 2020 10:04:04 PM
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Not all is rosy though even with a depreciating KES https://www.businessdail...-costs-stay-high-3217990
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Ebenyo
#58 Posted : Monday, February 22, 2021 5:10:06 PM
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https://kenyanwallstreet...sh-130-billion-in-2020/


this will indicate that williamson will atleast pay kshs 20 dividend.
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VituVingiSana
#59 Posted : Monday, February 22, 2021 9:02:32 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
https://kenyanwallstreet.com/despite-pandemic-kenyas-tea-export-earnings-jump-15-to-ksh-130-billion-in-2020/


this will indicate that williamson will atleast pay kshs 20 dividend.
That would be amazing Applause but expenses also soared in 2020. Transport by road and ship was higher due to COVID restrictions and supply chain issues.

More tea may have been exported but was the price realization better?
Tea to UK fetches better prices than tea to Pakistan.

I like the dividend but can WTK manage these in light of decreased profitability over the past 3 years?

Tea production (quantity) has done well in Kenya but not prices due to new producers e.g. Rwanda, Vietnam, etc.
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VituVingiSana
#60 Posted : Wednesday, March 31, 2021 5:22:02 AM
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Fresh row over tea plucking machines as job losses mount

https://www.businessdail...ob-losses-mount-3342484
...sacking of thousands over the Covid-19 pandemic that was followed by their replacement with plucking machines. That's logical. With low tea prices, lots of competition and demands for higher wages mechanization is the way to go.

tea combine harvesters managed by four workers displace 45 workers.

“Plucking machines have been introduced in most tea producing countries and Kenya is not an exception especially in this era of mechanised agriculture,” said a senior manager

“The machines consume less fuel and are managed by one person who can do work for more than 20 tea pickers, cutting down on the cost of production by a greater margin,” argued a director at one of the tea companies.
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