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Angelica _ann
#41 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2021 1:05:12 AM
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kaka2za wrote:
WSR major hurdle in Mt Kenya won't be RAO. It will be WSR vs Voter apathy


Why voter apathy yet in a general election there are other positions being contested therefore there will be local aka grassroot mobilization manenos.
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kaka2za
#42 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2021 9:07:44 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
WSR major hurdle in Mt Kenya won't be RAO. It will be WSR vs Voter apathy


Why voter apathy yet in a general election there are other positions being contested therefore there will be local aka grassroot mobilization manenos.


Please talk to people from the Mountain and ask them why they voted last time.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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simonkabz
#43 Posted : Monday, January 18, 2021 11:47:49 PM
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Location: Cameroon
Angelica _ann wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
WSR major hurdle in Mt Kenya won't be RAO. It will be WSR vs Voter apathy


Why voter apathy yet in a general election there are other positions being contested therefore there will be local aka grassroot mobilization manenos.


I may be wrong but a sizeable portion of the mountain youth is totally indifferent and I believe won't bother voting. Bar the usual church and matatu stage dramatization by Sugoi and the social media antics by his hirelings, the ground is not that solid for the grandmaster of theft. I now believe he's at 50-60% at best, most of it founded on shaky ground - a 'general' liking..... this can and will evaporate in no time.

Today a sizeable portion was left in a dilemma after muthamaki snarled. Wait till he roars..... tutakuwa tunaimba "baba" na "MaDvd" kuliko vile ulikuwa unaimba mkiwa na Mcreggae na Impunity 2007 na 2013 smile
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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quicksand
#44 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2021 8:38:38 AM
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Location: Nairobi
simonkabz wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
WSR major hurdle in Mt Kenya won't be RAO. It will be WSR vs Voter apathy


Why voter apathy yet in a general election there are other positions being contested therefore there will be local aka grassroot mobilization manenos.


I may be wrong but a sizeable portion of the mountain youth is totally indifferent and I believe won't bother voting. Bar the usual church and matatu stage dramatization by Sugoi and the social media antics by his hirelings, the ground is not that solid for the grandmaster of theft. I now believe he's at 50-60% at best, most of it founded on shaky ground - a 'general' liking..... this can and will evaporate in no time.

Today a sizeable portion was left in a dilemma after muthamaki snarled. Wait till he roars..... tutakuwa tunaimba "baba" na "MaDvd" kuliko vile ulikuwa unaimba mkiwa na Mcreggae na Impunity 2007 na 2013 smile


I Think am not so sure. I have a limited view as I can only speak of my local ground which is small. Muthamaki (1) squandered a lot of goodwill (2) his kin/companies took steps that hit dairy farmers hard for one. The overriding view is that Brookface or whatever was playing games to line his pockets and prices tanked. On some level this is similar to what Moi did with coffee. Then he played hardball with teachers. The anger is real and very deep. These people don't go shouting. He can't unring that bell. The political capital is spent
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murchr
#45 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:18:01 AM
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quicksand wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
WSR major hurdle in Mt Kenya won't be RAO. It will be WSR vs Voter apathy


Why voter apathy yet in a general election there are other positions being contested therefore there will be local aka grassroot mobilization manenos.


I may be wrong but a sizeable portion of the mountain youth is totally indifferent and I believe won't bother voting. Bar the usual church and matatu stage dramatization by Sugoi and the social media antics by his hirelings, the ground is not that solid for the grandmaster of theft. I now believe he's at 50-60% at best, most of it founded on shaky ground - a 'general' liking..... this can and will evaporate in no time.

Today a sizeable portion was left in a dilemma after muthamaki snarled. Wait till he roars..... tutakuwa tunaimba "baba" na "MaDvd" kuliko vile ulikuwa unaimba mkiwa na Mcreggae na Impunity 2007 na 2013 smile


I Think am not so sure. I have a limited view as I can only speak of my local ground which is small. Muthamaki (1) squandered a lot of goodwill (2) his kin/companies took steps that hit dairy farmers hard for one. The overriding view is that Brookface or whatever was playing games to line his pockets and prices tanked. On some level this is similar to what Moi did with coffee. Then he played hardball with teachers. The anger is real and very deep. These people don't go shouting. He can't unring that bell. The political capital is spent




There are people who are very disconnected with the realities of the day.
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simonkabz
#46 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:59:27 AM
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quicksand wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
WSR major hurdle in Mt Kenya won't be RAO. It will be WSR vs Voter apathy


Why voter apathy yet in a general election there are other positions being contested therefore there will be local aka grassroot mobilization manenos.


I may be wrong but a sizeable portion of the mountain youth is totally indifferent and I believe won't bother voting. Bar the usual church and matatu stage dramatization by Sugoi and the social media antics by his hirelings, the ground is not that solid for the grandmaster of theft. I now believe he's at 50-60% at best, most of it founded on shaky ground - a 'general' liking..... this can and will evaporate in no time.

Today a sizeable portion was left in a dilemma after muthamaki snarled. Wait till he roars..... tutakuwa tunaimba "baba" na "MaDvd" kuliko vile ulikuwa unaimba mkiwa na Mcreggae na Impunity 2007 na 2013 smile


I Think am not so sure. I have a limited view as I can only speak of my local ground which is small. Muthamaki (1) squandered a lot of goodwill (2) his kin/companies took steps that hit dairy farmers hard for one. The overriding view is that Brookface or whatever was playing games to line his pockets and prices tanked. On some level this is similar to what Moi did with coffee. Then he played hardball with teachers. The anger is real and very deep. These people don't go shouting. He can't unring that bell. The political capital is spent


That could be true. All Presidents blunder. We gave Kibaki so many nicknames towards the end of his 2nd term. I repeat, the ground is not that solid. Neither is substituting Unye with Sugoi based on any sound reasons. It is like replacing a smaller tomato with a bigger one. So, the reality will hit the proponents of the thief hard.
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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kaka2za
#47 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2021 7:22:25 AM
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WSR will end up like KSM. 30 years difference
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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mkenyan
#48 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2021 7:43:47 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
quicksand wrote:
simonkabz wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
WSR major hurdle in Mt Kenya won't be RAO. It will be WSR vs Voter apathy


Why voter apathy yet in a general election there are other positions being contested therefore there will be local aka grassroot mobilization manenos.


I may be wrong but a sizeable portion of the mountain youth is totally indifferent and I believe won't bother voting. Bar the usual church and matatu stage dramatization by Sugoi and the social media antics by his hirelings, the ground is not that solid for the grandmaster of theft. I now believe he's at 50-60% at best, most of it founded on shaky ground - a 'general' liking..... this can and will evaporate in no time.

Today a sizeable portion was left in a dilemma after muthamaki snarled. Wait till he roars..... tutakuwa tunaimba "baba" na "MaDvd" kuliko vile ulikuwa unaimba mkiwa na Mcreggae na Impunity 2007 na 2013 smile


I Think am not so sure. I have a limited view as I can only speak of my local ground which is small. Muthamaki (1) squandered a lot of goodwill (2) his kin/companies took steps that hit dairy farmers hard for one. The overriding view is that Brookface or whatever was playing games to line his pockets and prices tanked. On some level this is similar to what Moi did with coffee. Then he played hardball with teachers. The anger is real and very deep. These people don't go shouting. He can't unring that bell. The political capital is spent


That could be true. All Presidents blunder. We gave Kibaki so many nicknames towards the end of his 2nd term. I repeat, the ground is not that solid. Neither is substituting Unye with Sugoi based on any sound reasons. It is like replacing a smaller tomato with a bigger one. So, the reality will hit the proponents of the thief hard.

true. how one can reason that the ground is bad for uhuru because of his leadership and then with a straight face say how ruto (his co-principal in the leadership) shall benefit baffles the mind. but we have seen this song before. there shall be lots of those there shouting and swearing to vote for ruto and then come the elections quickly pivot to vote for one of their own - some may need excuses (like something one of ruto's men/women would have said) while others wont event bother with excuses.
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aemathenge
#49 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2021 12:18:49 PM
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mkenyan wrote:
How one can reason that the ground is bad for Uhuru because of his leadership and then with a straight face say how ruto (his co-principal in the leadership) shall benefit baffles the mind.

but we have seen this song before.

there shall be lots of those there shouting and swearing to vote for ruto and then come the elections quickly pivot to vote for one of their own - some may need excuses (like something one of ruto's men/women would have said) while others wont event bother with excuses.


The good, the bad, the ugly, and the evil of the first term rest on both His Excellency Kenyatta II and His Excellency Dr. William Ruto.

The good, the bad, the ugly, and the evil of the second term rest on His Excellency Kenyatta II and Dr. Matiang'i.

I see no one attaining the 50% plus one in the first round of the 2022 Erections.

The coalitions that arise from the first round stalemate will be a sight to behold, but that is me.

Let the people decide, even those who decide by failing to turn up.
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Gathige
#50 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2021 7:23:10 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
WSR major hurdle in Mt Kenya won't be RAO. It will be WSR vs Voter apathy


He will get a Nyumba running mate to address that. If he can get 60% turnout that will be sawa.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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