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William Ruto is NOT going to be President in 2022
gk
#1641 Posted : Monday, October 05, 2020 7:14:27 PM
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masukuma wrote:
madollar wrote:
Thurakus are digging in hawangatuki



Kuna watu walikuwa wanadhani hao ndio maPower Brokers. They cannot believe the revolt being seen in their own backyards.


Even if WSR became president for live he would never lay a finger on the Kenyattas, Odingas, Mudavadis or even Mois or their properties...ill gotten or otherwise!
In fact the very first act, even before he is sworn in, would be dispense with some of his " fellow hustlers". Its only natural, since the high table can only accommodate so many. Be warned!
masukuma
#1642 Posted : Monday, October 05, 2020 8:29:39 PM
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gk wrote:
masukuma wrote:
madollar wrote:
Thurakus are digging in hawangatuki



Kuna watu walikuwa wanadhani hao ndio maPower Brokers. They cannot believe the revolt being seen in their own backyards.


Even if WSR became president for live he would never lay a finger on the Kenyattas, Odingas, Mudavadis or even Mois or their properties...ill gotten or otherwise!
In fact the very first act, even before he is sworn in, would be dispense with some of his " fellow hustlers". Its only natural, since the high table can only accommodate so many. Be warned!

I am under no illusions... I just don't want conflict in the western side of Nakuru (especially Njoro and Kaptembwa areas). Hiyo ingine ni shauri yenu!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Queen
#1643 Posted : Monday, October 05, 2020 8:38:21 PM
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masukuma wrote:
gk wrote:
masukuma wrote:
madollar wrote:
Thurakus are digging in hawangatuki



Kuna watu walikuwa wanadhani hao ndio maPower Brokers. They cannot believe the revolt being seen in their own backyards.


Even if WSR became president for live he would never lay a finger on the Kenyattas, Odingas, Mudavadis or even Mois or their properties...ill gotten or otherwise!
In fact the very first act, even before he is sworn in, would be dispense with some of his " fellow hustlers". Its only natural, since the high table can only accommodate so many. Be warned!

I am under no illusions... I just don't want conflict in the western side of Nakuru (especially Njoro and Kaptembwa areas). Hiyo ingine ni shauri yenu!


Njoro and Kaptembwa in the same sentence? Thought Kaptembwa was basically an appendage of Nakuru Town. You should probably have talked of Njoro and Molo. Or better still Warufaga or is it Elburgon?
gk
#1644 Posted : Monday, October 05, 2020 10:20:35 PM
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masukuma wrote:
gk wrote:
masukuma wrote:
madollar wrote:
Thurakus are digging in hawangatuki



Kuna watu walikuwa wanadhani hao ndio maPower Brokers. They cannot believe the revolt being seen in their own backyards.


Even if WSR became president for live he would never lay a finger on the Kenyattas, Odingas, Mudavadis or even Mois or their properties...ill gotten or otherwise!
In fact the very first act, even before he is sworn in, would be dispense with some of his " fellow hustlers". Its only natural, since the high table can only accommodate so many. Be warned!

I am under no illusions... I just don't want conflict in the western side of Nakuru (especially Njoro and Kaptembwa areas). Hiyo ingine ni shauri yenu!


Blackmail...hiyo ndio sera pekee.
mpobiz
#1645 Posted : Tuesday, October 06, 2020 7:46:02 AM
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gk wrote:
masukuma wrote:
gk wrote:
masukuma wrote:
madollar wrote:
Thurakus are digging in hawangatuki



Kuna watu walikuwa wanadhani hao ndio maPower Brokers. They cannot believe the revolt being seen in their own backyards.


Even if WSR became president for live he would never lay a finger on the Kenyattas, Odingas, Mudavadis or even Mois or their properties...ill gotten or otherwise!
In fact the very first act, even before he is sworn in, would be dispense with some of his " fellow hustlers". Its only natural, since the high table can only accommodate so many. Be warned!

I am under no illusions... I just don't want conflict in the western side of Nakuru (especially Njoro and Kaptembwa areas). Hiyo ingine ni shauri yenu!


Blackmail...hiyo ndio sera pekee.


I don't know why we act as if we don't know that babu was the main mastermind of the chaos.WSR was not a presidential candidate neither did he benefit from the outcomes. He was sidelined and framed in the ICC.
We now know he is the man to beat in 2022 so our concern should be on the usual loosers who have now brought their evil ways to kikuyu land. A good example is what happend in muranga.
I hear in the news that the muranga governor has vowed to storm all DP functions in the region. What they don't know is that such actions only make the DP more popular and the thurakus are ready to teach them a lesson when the time comes.
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
kaka2za
#1646 Posted : Tuesday, October 06, 2020 8:07:23 AM
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I foresee another Government of National Unity post 2022.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
murchr
#1647 Posted : Tuesday, October 06, 2020 4:41:02 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
I foresee another Government of National Unity post 2022.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Ala?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Queen
#1648 Posted : Tuesday, October 06, 2020 8:18:40 PM
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gk wrote:
masukuma wrote:
gk wrote:
masukuma wrote:
madollar wrote:
Thurakus are digging in hawangatuki



Kuna watu walikuwa wanadhani hao ndio maPower Brokers. They cannot believe the revolt being seen in their own backyards.


Even if WSR became president for live he would never lay a finger on the Kenyattas, Odingas, Mudavadis or even Mois or their properties...ill gotten or otherwise!
In fact the very first act, even before he is sworn in, would be dispense with some of his " fellow hustlers". Its only natural, since the high table can only accommodate so many. Be warned!

I am under no illusions... I just don't want conflict in the western side of Nakuru (especially Njoro and Kaptembwa areas). Hiyo ingine ni shauri yenu!


Blackmail...hiyo ndio sera pekee.


A.k.a kuuziwa uoga....
Gathige
#1649 Posted : Tuesday, October 06, 2020 9:21:31 PM
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madollar wrote:
Thurakus are digging in hawangatuki




This is a rehearsal for BBI rallies. As Mzee ntimama would say, watu watakanyangana ndani mpaka wengine watoke nje. The next two years will be noisy and messy too.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
madollar
#1650 Posted : Thursday, October 08, 2020 3:06:29 AM
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Ukweli wa mambo is that ruto betrayal is what created the hustler nation if uhuru had kept his part of the bargain a very different script would be at play today

Tough times ahead for DP Ruto in new security measures

“Sadly, some individuals are taking advantage of the vulnerabilities in our population occasioned by the socio-economic shocks of Covid-19. In pursuit of cheap publicity, these individuals, in attempts to further their selfish political agenda, are inciting the youths who are fearful of their future.”

masukuma
#1651 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2020 9:24:47 PM
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wukan wrote:
masukuma wrote:
madollar wrote:
Thurakus are digging in hawangatuki



Kuna watu walikuwa wanadhani hao ndio maPower Brokers. They cannot believe the revolt being seen in their own backyards.


Nothing new here. Central kenya was always divided even from the time of Mau Mau. Back to default settings like in 1992 Matiba had the hustler nation and the posh(Muthaiga/upper Mathare types)kikuyu backed Kibaki's DP. It was better to endure Moi than be governed by Matiba's hustlers.

Central kenya disdain for hustlers is deeply ingrained in such terms as the 'muhoi'. There is no revolt just back to the default settings.




are 'hustlers' to be considered 'ahoi' or 'agiginyani'? The second one is more fitting!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
wukan
#1652 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2020 9:53:08 AM
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masukuma wrote:
wukan wrote:
masukuma wrote:
madollar wrote:
Thurakus are digging in hawangatuki



Kuna watu walikuwa wanadhani hao ndio maPower Brokers. They cannot believe the revolt being seen in their own backyards.


Nothing new here. Central kenya was always divided even from the time of Mau Mau. Back to default settings like in 1992 Matiba had the hustler nation and the posh(Muthaiga/upper Mathare types)kikuyu backed Kibaki's DP. It was better to endure Moi than be governed by Matiba's hustlers.

Central kenya disdain for hustlers is deeply ingrained in such terms as the 'muhoi'. There is no revolt just back to the default settings.




are 'hustlers' to be considered 'ahoi' or 'agiginyani'? The second one is more fitting!


"agiginyani" is also what Matiba had in mind but he ended up with the lumpen proletariat. Remember what Kamotho used to say even a dog would have been elected on Ford Asili ticket. Uhuru had also started on that road then he ended up with Mungiki lumpen. It took him a while to shed off that tag to become president.

Baba has abandoned the 'lord of poverty' tag, ruto is picking it up to his detriment. Kenyans will reward ruto with 'mtetezi wa wnayonge' opposition role similar to what they made baba.


masukuma
#1653 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2020 10:41:52 AM
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wukan wrote:
masukuma wrote:
wukan wrote:
masukuma wrote:
madollar wrote:
Thurakus are digging in hawangatuki



Kuna watu walikuwa wanadhani hao ndio maPower Brokers. They cannot believe the revolt being seen in their own backyards.


Nothing new here. Central kenya was always divided even from the time of Mau Mau. Back to default settings like in 1992 Matiba had the hustler nation and the posh(Muthaiga/upper Mathare types)kikuyu backed Kibaki's DP. It was better to endure Moi than be governed by Matiba's hustlers.

Central kenya disdain for hustlers is deeply ingrained in such terms as the 'muhoi'. There is no revolt just back to the default settings.




are 'hustlers' to be considered 'ahoi' or 'agiginyani'? The second one is more fitting!


"agiginyani" is also what Matiba had in mind but he ended up with the lumpen proletariat. Remember what Kamotho used to say even a dog would have been elected on Ford Asili ticket. Uhuru had also started on that road then he ended up with Mungiki lumpen. It took him a while to shed off that tag to become president.

Baba has abandoned the 'lord of poverty' tag, ruto is picking it up to his detriment. Kenyans will reward ruto with 'mtetezi wa wnayonge' opposition role similar to what they made baba.



I don't see the nexus... We are so used to seeing people from the perspective of 'Serikali Saidia'... 'the poor'... 'pesa ya maskini' I can see why people at a position of privilege would mistake those people with 'hustlers'... but they are not the same.

For example this guy really explains it well
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
sqft
#1654 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2020 2:11:00 PM
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Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
madollar
#1655 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2020 3:08:10 AM
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Extremely uncomfortable for ruto what are his options going forward and resigning is not one of them


murchr
#1656 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2020 4:58:45 AM
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madollar wrote:
Extremely uncomfortable for ruto what are his options going forward and resigning is not one of them




He has all the cards. He will not resign, he CANNOT be fired, the police antics are only making him more popular really all he's waiting for now is time. Everything is looking up for him.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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aemathenge
#1657 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2020 6:54:19 AM
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murchr wrote:
He has all the cards.

He will not resign, he CANNOT be fired, the police antics are only making him more popular really all he's waiting for now is time.

Everything is looking up for him.


What is His Excellency William Ruto teaching his own Deputy President?

Are we going to have a similar dance come 2028?

Just a thought. Just a thought.
masukuma
#1658 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2020 8:04:24 AM
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aemathenge wrote:
murchr wrote:
He has all the cards.

He will not resign, he CANNOT be fired, the police antics are only making him more popular really all he's waiting for now is time.

Everything is looking up for him.


What is His Excellency William Ruto teaching his own Deputy President?

Are we going to have a similar dance come 2028?

Just a thought. Just a thought.

it's too late for Uhuru... Ruto just needs to keep doing what he is doing - it's working!!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
aemathenge
#1659 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2020 9:48:50 AM
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masukuma wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
murchr wrote:
He has all the cards.

He will not resign, he CANNOT be fired, the police antics are only making him more popular really all he's waiting for now is time.

Everything is looking up for him.


What is His Excellency William Ruto teaching his own Deputy President?

Are we going to have a similar dance come 2028?

Just a thought. Just a thought.

it's too late for Uhuru... Ruto just needs to keep doing what he is doing - it's working!!


Granted.

I'm talking about the future.

William Ruto becomes President.

He has a Deputy President.

The new Deputy President, will he/she do what Deputy Ruto is doing to President Kenyatta II?
wukan
#1660 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2020 10:29:32 AM
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blah blah blah....7 years later

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