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youcan'tstopusnow
#11 Posted : Saturday, July 10, 2010 5:31:53 PM
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story teller wrote:
I honestly believe just like the politicians, the majority who read his column take it very very seriously. When you repeat a lie so many times, it becomes true to most.


story teller, the only people who are dumb enough to take this guy seriously are too broke to buy the paper.
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story teller
#12 Posted : Saturday, July 10, 2010 7:24:13 PM
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@Mpenzi said..

Please quote any piece where Mutahi is putting forward a divisive message or hate speech. Or is analysing various scenarios and pointing out problematic areas in the Proposed Constitution hate speech and/or divisive?


@Mpenzi,an example....

Mutahi Ngunyi claims that the draft allows the Armed forces to unionise, meaning if they feel aggrieved (like college guys or teachers) ,they could simply hit the streets and start shooting in the air in protest or perhaps vent their anger by shooting anyone on site….that is the implication….

Article 24 (5) of the Bill of Rights makes specific exemptions of the Armed Forces and Police Service from joining trade unions or participating in protests.

The implication here is that it is possible to have a "rouge army or police force" who would be aggrieved because they did not get that 15 % pay hike promised last month. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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kivairu
#13 Posted : Saturday, July 10, 2010 7:42:37 PM
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story teller wrote:
I choose to differ on this one. Many say he is entertaining...don't read between the lines blah blah blah. Question is how many of us think he is just a goofy, humorous guy, not to be taken seriously, I believe that he eschews a very dangerous message, a divisive message. We are still recovering from the post election violence and the trauma it inflicted on so many. We need people to preach peace, to unite us, to celebrate our diversity. I also believe in free speech but he pushes the boundaries so far whether in pursuit of fame or fortune.

I still remember how it all started in Rwanda..a little known radio station talking of "cutting the tall trees" . The rest is history.They live with the scars to this very day . I honestly believe just like the politicians, the majority who read his column take it very very seriously. When you repeat a lie so many times, it becomes true to most.


Thanks story teller...these articles shape public opinion in very unprecedented ways, so it beats me when some guys here say its for entertainment value

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#14 Posted : Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:41:16 AM
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kadonye wrote:
His articles are very good for 'political entertainment'.However, he is seriour about some stuff he writes e.g the constitution,he is totally convinced that the draft is horrible


He does. And it is.

I suspect Ngunyi has been put on administrative leave since that painfully correct analysis of the draft vs 2012 election objectives (June 19). You see, Kenya is under the grip of the Yesers ... truth supporting the view of the Noers is met with insults and false accusations. So it is quite likely Ngunyi has been told in some very effective manner to "shut the F***k up". I hope he is well.

Ngunyi is a political scientist. He does not create the politics. He only analyzes it. Blame the messenger and decieve yourself.
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mnandii
#15 Posted : Sunday, July 11, 2010 7:34:41 PM
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Ngunyi lost it the moment he started to comment on the draft. Maybe he was paid by the naysayers(heard they av lots of cash).
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