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Devolution Revenue Sharing Formula
masukuma
#121 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2020 11:53:27 AM
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alma1 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
sqft wrote:
masukuma wrote:
sqft wrote:
I support wa iria 100%. Each muranga resident gets 4k while others get 60k. No justice at all.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
it's like a comedy... ati Wakikuyu wamefinywa!! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Of all people... Miaka yote serikalini! mumefinywa? such a joke! after tasting Equity for 5 years mumeanza kulalamika Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly . FYI... there are areas of this country that have lived generations under skewed revenue sharing and this has always caused conflict and disharmony in this country. Remember - 2007 was caused by such disparity! So tulieni! Uzeni maji mkitaka (nani amewakataza?)... but remember KATIBA YES!


I think i need to remind you who the biggest gainers are. Muranga is not even on the list. Stop making this a kikuyu affair.




I did not make it a Kikuyu affair - the video that you put here made it a Kikuyu affair! You by quoting it made it a Kikuyu Affair!


I'd argue it' a kikuyu affair since it seems only Kikuyus are catching feelings about it. Hadi they are paying trolls against Sakaja..

Sad.

yes... @sqft had what is the equivalent of an online freduian slip when he posted that tweet!! Anyway... we are not children! we know whose concerns are being pushed... kutisha tisha watu... KATIBA YES!
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sqft
#122 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2020 11:57:58 AM
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mv_ufanisi wrote:


These are the same arguments that white people make against affirmative action in the US or South Africa.

You need to drive out of Central Kenya and visit a county like Marsabit or Samburu where the ground is basically untillable and water is super scarce while the temperatures are so hot that spending 30 minutes in the sun makes you immediately thirsty.

These challenges faced by our brothers in the Northern District are not to be encountered in fertile and wet parts of Kenya such as Central.

So for whatever reason, the average citizen in Central Kenya starts off at a big advantage compared to the average citizen in the dry parts of the country who has to worry about the most basic things such as water. Which is why as you drive by dry parts of the country you see kids begging you for water. That never happens in Central.

So if we are to talk about equality, we need to at least get the citizen in dry parts of the country having access to water/food. A visit to one of these dry parts of the country would really help to dispel the feeling of injustice.


Ever heard of something called land use? In high rainfall areas such as central, uasin gishu, nandi, kericho, cheranganyi, mt elgon, kakamega, siaya, taita etc the best land use is growing crops. The warmer lowlands where grass grows very fast after the rainy seasons are best for livestock keeping. Agriculture is not just about crops but also livestock. Agriculture is the science and art of cultivating plants and livestock. Being in an arid area doesn not mean that you cant practice your form of agriculture. I posted earlier that most beef, goats and sheep worth billions come from these arid and semi arid areas (ASALS). You can also use those asals to keep wild animals and benefit from tourism just like narok gets billions from masai mara park, or the way mzungus are doing in laikipia, or samburus in their county. So dwelling on tillability of land, high temperatures and thirst is missing the point. Do you know that in all those dry areas you are talking about, the livestock and wildlife has to drink water every day to survive meaning there are water sources to sustain the millions of livestock? Also they can drill boreholes to further promote the livestock enterprise.
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
masukuma
#123 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2020 12:08:44 PM
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sqft wrote:
mv_ufanisi wrote:


These are the same arguments that white people make against affirmative action in the US or South Africa.

You need to drive out of Central Kenya and visit a county like Marsabit or Samburu where the ground is basically untillable and water is super scarce while the temperatures are so hot that spending 30 minutes in the sun makes you immediately thirsty.

These challenges faced by our brothers in the Northern District are not to be encountered in fertile and wet parts of Kenya such as Central.

So for whatever reason, the average citizen in Central Kenya starts off at a big advantage compared to the average citizen in the dry parts of the country who has to worry about the most basic things such as water. Which is why as you drive by dry parts of the country you see kids begging you for water. That never happens in Central.

So if we are to talk about equality, we need to at least get the citizen in dry parts of the country having access to water/food. A visit to one of these dry parts of the country would really help to dispel the feeling of injustice.


Ever heard of something called land use? In high rainfall areas such as central, uasin gishu, nandi, kericho, cheranganyi, mt elgon, kakamega, siaya, taita etc the best land use is growing crops. The warmer lowlands where grass grows very fast after the rainy seasons are best for livestock keeping. Agriculture is not just about crops but also livestock. Agriculture is the science and art of cultivating plants and livestock. Being in an arid area doesn not mean that you cant practice your form of agriculture. I posted earlier that most beef, goats and sheep worth billions come from these arid and semi arid areas (ASALS). You can also use those asals to keep wild animals and benefit from tourism just like narok gets billions from masai mara park, or the way mzungus are doing in laikipia, or samburus in their county. So dwelling on tillability of land, high temperatures and thirst is missing the point. Do you know that in all those dry areas you are talking about, the livestock and wildlife has to drink water every day to survive meaning there are water sources to sustain the millions of livestock? Also they can drill boreholes to further promote the livestock enterprise.

All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
sqft
#124 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2020 12:11:07 PM
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alma1 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
sqft wrote:
masukuma wrote:
sqft wrote:
I support wa iria 100%. Each muranga resident gets 4k while others get 60k. No justice at all.


[TWEET]1290878259454980096/TWEET]

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
it's like a comedy... ati Wakikuyu wamefinywa!! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Of all people... Miaka yote serikalini! mumefinywa? such a joke! after tasting Equity for 5 years mumeanza kulalamika Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly . FYI... there are areas of this country that have lived generations under skewed revenue sharing and this has always caused conflict and disharmony in this country. Remember - 2007 was caused by such disparity! So tulieni! Uzeni maji mkitaka (nani amewakataza?)... but remember KATIBA YES!


I think i need to remind you who the biggest gainers are. Muranga is not even on the list. Stop making this a kikuyu affair.




I did not make it a Kikuyu affair - the video that you put here made it a Kikuyu affair! You by quoting it made it a Kikuyu Affair!


I'd argue it' a kikuyu affair since it seems only Kikuyus are catching feelings about it. Hadi they are paying trolls against Sakaja..

Sad.


The nandis are also saying the same thing. One man one vote one shilling. Are the nandis also kikuyu?

Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
sqft
#125 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2020 12:18:05 PM
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sqft wrote:
alma1 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
sqft wrote:
masukuma wrote:
sqft wrote:
I support wa iria 100%. Each muranga resident gets 4k while others get 60k. No justice at all.


[TWEET]1290878259454980096/TWEET]

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
it's like a comedy... ati Wakikuyu wamefinywa!! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Of all people... Miaka yote serikalini! mumefinywa? such a joke! after tasting Equity for 5 years mumeanza kulalamika Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly . FYI... there are areas of this country that have lived generations under skewed revenue sharing and this has always caused conflict and disharmony in this country. Remember - 2007 was caused by such disparity! So tulieni! Uzeni maji mkitaka (nani amewakataza?)... but remember KATIBA YES!


I think i need to remind you who the biggest gainers are. Muranga is not even on the list. Stop making this a kikuyu affair.




I did not make it a Kikuyu affair - the video that you put here made it a Kikuyu affair! You by quoting it made it a Kikuyu Affair!


I'd argue it' a kikuyu affair since it seems only Kikuyus are catching feelings about it. Hadi they are paying trolls against Sakaja..

Sad.


The nandis and RV are also saying the same thing. One man one vote one shilling. Are the nandis also kikuyu?





Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
sqft
#126 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2020 12:38:43 PM
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Murkomen's elgeyo marakwet county. Farmers cant access markets due to poor roads. Him and wananchi cant also travel in his own county coz of poor roads. The elgeyo marakwet governor is right that they need more funds.

https://www.standardmedi...s-as-rains-damage-roads









Nyandarua county. No roads to access markets. They also need more devolution cash.

https://www.construction...nyandarua-county-roads/



Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
sqft
#127 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2020 12:51:15 PM
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Meanwhile Marsabit:







Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
masukuma
#128 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2020 3:11:53 PM
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sqft wrote:
Meanwhile Marsabit:








indeed Marsabit is much better place to live than Nyandarua and Elgeyo Marakwet!
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Angelica _ann
#129 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2020 3:22:44 PM
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masukuma wrote:
sqft wrote:
Meanwhile Marsabit:








indeed Marsabit is much better place to live than Nyandarua and Elgeyo Marakwet!


They should travel around the country wajionee. In some places they cannot even sleep, pissing on themselves the whole night.
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murchr
#130 Posted : Wednesday, August 05, 2020 3:58:52 PM
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We are missing the point, its about service delivery to the county residents. Not what you can do in Marsabit. No amount of money can make Marsabit be as green and their land be as tillable as Nyandarua...nothing, but funds can be used to create rroads that would be used to supply food from Nyandarua to Marsabit. Farmers should not throw away milk and cabbages yet citizens are dying of hunger in Marsabit.

Equally, residents of Nyandarua should be able to move out of Nyandarua and travel to Marsabit to tour ala?
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