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Rank: Member Joined: 10/14/2011 Posts: 661
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murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:kaka2za wrote:murchr wrote:Rongla wrote:Gathige wrote:radiomast wrote:Is Kenya doing something wrong?
We now have 20 times the number of cases Uganda has.
Senegal which had 3 times the number of cases Kenya had in May, now has half the number
Cameroon which had 3 times the number of cases Kenya had also now has less than Kenya
Somebody ask the health CS why Kenya is increasing exponentially and others arent. Countries are hiding data. TZ is no longer testing. Not sure what other nations are doing. Well one reason and most probable is the so called "Kenyan Winter". Temperatures are generally lower than average and it is believed the virus thrives in cold temperatures. Europe is bracing for a spike come winter. This virus knows no temperature. Rain or shine if you're not social distancing washing hands or sanitizing you are exposed. The African story is hidden. This issue is puzzling. Kenya has actually taken stringent measures but numbers are rising.Other African countries have done zilch. In the last two months,I have lost two neighbours in Kenya but none in the place where I live which was the epicenter few months ago. Surely, Tz can hide number of infections but you can never hide dead bodies. During the Ebola outbreak in West Africa, some governments tried to hide but then bodies started dropping. Meanwhile, it took me only three hours to get a test result,in Kenya it is taking a week. Economically, Kenya has taken a hit also. EUR was at 114 now it is at 125! Kenya has taken what stringent measures? Who said the virus spreads at night & not during the day? Before magufuli cracked the wip on those showing the covid situation in that country, were we not seeing bodies and burials? He later went on to say that Covid patients should not be buried in haste and without dignity if we bury Aids patients better. So without the exposure we will never know. Until several leaders die of "malaria". You know the Kenyan story because people are testing and information is shared. Some countries are not testing anymore and the rate of death depends on the immunity of the person. 400 deaths in a month are almost normal and can be handled. When morgues start hiring containers as fridges then that will be something else. Stringent compared with other African countries. Tembea uone. No masks,vehicle carrying full capacity and pubs open 24/7. And let me tell you it is easier to get a test in those countries you despise than in Kenya. I've told you the fact that if you don't hear a tree falling in the forest does not mean they don't fall. If Kenya wasn't reporting its cases how would you know? I would know because two of my neighbours in Kenya have died and three more recovered. Only one doctor has died since April where I live. It is not about the numbers reported. It is about the actual fatalities and the situation in hospitals. It could be a diet or lifestyle issue. You know because you have been informed. You wouldn't know what you have not been informed It's not the government that informed me. Kagwe mentions numbers only. Ifsomeone you know dies,the government doesn't have to inform you. Are you waiting for someone in TZ to die so that you know it exists ama una sema nini? I know no one and i hope no one I know gets it but that doesnt change the fact that the disease kills and it community spreading in my area. So how many people have you shared this info with– as in, get to know because you know?, what about in a village where there are no reported death. I believe Governments should release figures, without proper consolidation of data we wouldn’t know the magnitude of the pandemic. We will make informed decisions on travel etc with data like this https://www.worldometers...coronavirus-has-spread/ get to know global statistics and better manage the pandemic.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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Man collapses and dies in chaka, nyeri after developing breathing problems.  Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 2,038 Location: GA
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Talk of the virus be around in kenya from January can now being disregarded going by what is happening now "From January up until early February, the number of pneumonia cases were 137,667 before a dramatic increase to 195,504. While the data for March is not complete, a source at the Ministry of Health suspects that the numbers are still increasing" The pattern — an increase from January and then a plateau — is not similar for the same period in 2019
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Of course it didn't make sense! It came as "Homa Mbaya"... caused a spike of pnumonias here and there... then "disappeared" with 0 actions taken (even within the medical community who were treating these 'homa mbaya' patients and had lax preventive measures earlier in the year) only for it to reappear again? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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masukuma wrote:So what I have learned so far 1) coronaviruses are a family of viruses that cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases like MERS, SARS and COVID-19. 2) there are coronaviruses that have not 'jumped' species and are mainly still in bats. bats being bats are everywhere! they are the animals with the second largest number of species and live everywhere...including kenya where a study shows talks about the existence of Novel SARS-like and Other Coronaviruses in Bats living in Kenya. 4) While it takes a bit of bad luck to get an outbreak started - the next coronavirus outbreak can be from anywhere - Kenya's bats have 41 distinct coronaviruses so it's important to have this problem looked at in the long term. 5) a 1991 study in the journal of virology outlined how Chloroquine (amongst others) slowed down the growth of coronaviruses by raising the PH of the cells. apparently coronaviruses need acidic environments to bind to cell receptors.6) ibuprofen has been in the news lately as one of the drugs to avoid if you are exhibiting C-19 symptoms. why? it helps them multiply. it also has a low PH. Conclusion - anything that raises the PH of the body may be effective in stopping the reproduction of coronaviruses in human cells. this is not to mean that eating alkaline foods will translate to raising the PH of your tissues (as digestion may just neutralize it). Perhaps pharmacists and biochemists can tell us what other drugs lower the PH of blood and cell tissues. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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Shak wrote:newfarer wrote:[quote=sqft]The principal of Chania High school has collapsed and died after developing breathing problems. He was chairing a meeting. https://www.nation.co.ke...apses-and-dies--1905412[/quote] I have counted like 7 news items of people dropping dead while going on with their daily chores this month All of them middle aged men QUOTE FROM THE DAILY NATION: "In the last 48 hours, 28 lives have been lost to Covid-19, even as the positive cases rose to 22, 053.
“This disease has left a trail of pain and anguish as families mourn their loved ones,” Health Cabinet Secretary Mutahi Kagwe said last month. An analysis of the deaths shows that it is only female teenagers aged between 10-19 who have not reported any deaths, even as men over 60 years continue to form the bulk of the Covid-19 fatalities at 33 per cent.
The data shows that men aged between 50-60 years were the second high-risk group at 15 per cent, followed by those in the 40-50 age bracket at 14 per cent.
Despite the women in these three groups being at greater risk, they still formed a lower percentage of the fatalities at nine per cent for those over 60 years, six per cent for those between 50-59, and five per cent for those between 40-49 years."Why the stark disparity between sexes?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,901
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Shak wrote:Shak wrote:newfarer wrote:[quote=sqft]The principal of Chania High school has collapsed and died after developing breathing problems. He was chairing a meeting. https://www.nation.co.ke...apses-and-dies--1905412[/quote] I have counted like 7 news items of people dropping dead while going on with their daily chores this month All of them middle aged men QUOTE FROM THE DAILY NATION: "In the last 48 hours, 28 lives have been lost to Covid-19, even as the positive cases rose to 22, 053.
“This disease has left a trail of pain and anguish as families mourn their loved ones,” Health Cabinet Secretary Mutahi Kagwe said last month. An analysis of the deaths shows that it is only female teenagers aged between 10-19 who have not reported any deaths, even as men over 60 years continue to form the bulk of the Covid-19 fatalities at 33 per cent.
The data shows that men aged between 50-60 years were the second high-risk group at 15 per cent, followed by those in the 40-50 age bracket at 14 per cent.
Despite the women in these three groups being at greater risk, they still formed a lower percentage of the fatalities at nine per cent for those over 60 years, six per cent for those between 50-59, and five per cent for those between 40-49 years."Why the stark disparity between sexes? Men have more underlying sicknesses that they don't treat as required. Plus they are also poor and careless in following Covid guidelines aka protocols. Plus slow in seeking treatment. Generally villages are full of widows than widowers! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/16/2019 Posts: 313
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Ramaphosa warns 'hyenas' stealing Covid-19 fundsQuote:Corruption during a national disaster is a particularly heinous type of crime, and perpetrators are going to be dealt with decisively and harshly.
It is difficult to understand the utter lack of conscience that leads a businessperson who has heeded the call to provide lifesaving supplies during a devastating pandemic to inflate the price of a surgical mask by as much as 900%.
Nor can one explain why a councillor would stockpile emergency food parcels meant for the poor for their own family, or why another councillor would divert water tankers en route to a needy community to their own home.
It is impossible to discern what drives an entire family whose member stole funds meant for unemployed workers to go on a spending spree, buying cars, paying for renovations and beauty treatments, and even tombstones.
Attempting to profit from a disaster that is claiming the lives of our people every day is the action of scavengers. It is like a pack of hyenas circling wounded prey.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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Angelica _ann wrote:Shak wrote:Shak wrote:newfarer wrote:[quote=sqft]The principal of Chania High school has collapsed and died after developing breathing problems. He was chairing a meeting. https://www.nation.co.ke...apses-and-dies--1905412[/quote] I have counted like 7 news items of people dropping dead while going on with their daily chores this month All of them middle aged men QUOTE FROM THE DAILY NATION: "In the last 48 hours, 28 lives have been lost to Covid-19, even as the positive cases rose to 22, 053.
“This disease has left a trail of pain and anguish as families mourn their loved ones,” Health Cabinet Secretary Mutahi Kagwe said last month. An analysis of the deaths shows that it is only female teenagers aged between 10-19 who have not reported any deaths, even as men over 60 years continue to form the bulk of the Covid-19 fatalities at 33 per cent.
The data shows that men aged between 50-60 years were the second high-risk group at 15 per cent, followed by those in the 40-50 age bracket at 14 per cent.
Despite the women in these three groups being at greater risk, they still formed a lower percentage of the fatalities at nine per cent for those over 60 years, six per cent for those between 50-59, and five per cent for those between 40-49 years."Why the stark disparity between sexes? Men have more underlying sicknesses that they don't treat as required. Plus they are also poor and careless in following Covid guidelines aka protocols. Plus slow in seeking treatment. Generally villages are full of widows than widowers! Plus most smokers are men and lung health is a factor of severity of disease.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 1,490 Location: Nairobi
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Miss Rona done messed the world Kenya ni yetu sisi sote
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/16/2019 Posts: 313
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kmucheke wrote:Ramaphosa warns 'hyenas' stealing Covid-19 fundsQuote:Corruption during a national disaster is a particularly heinous type of crime, and perpetrators are going to be dealt with decisively and harshly.
It is difficult to understand the utter lack of conscience that leads a businessperson who has heeded the call to provide lifesaving supplies during a devastating pandemic to inflate the price of a surgical mask by as much as 900%.
Nor can one explain why a councillor would stockpile emergency food parcels meant for the poor for their own family, or why another councillor would divert water tankers en route to a needy community to their own home.
It is impossible to discern what drives an entire family whose member stole funds meant for unemployed workers to go on a spending spree, buying cars, paying for renovations and beauty treatments, and even tombstones.
Attempting to profit from a disaster that is claiming the lives of our people every day is the action of scavengers. It is like a pack of hyenas circling wounded prey. I believe corruption may also be fuelling the increase in the number of cases. Even when are faced with an existential threat greedy individuals can't keep away. In fact Covid-19 pandemic has granted them a golden opportunity to pilfer to the fullest.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/21/2009 Posts: 602
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We did not need a study to tell us that wearing a mask below the nose doesn't do shit...But here is the scientific evidenceExcerpt: "..mapped locations in the respiratory tract where the COVID-19 virus most quickly invades, multiplies and spreads. They found the cells that line the nose were significantly more likely to become infected and shed virus compared to the throat or lungs. That means, every time a person exhales through their nose, they are likely generating a higher concentration of infectious aerosol than if they were simply breathing from their mouth.It also means, in order to block that infectious cloud from escaping to infect other people, it's just as important to cover your nose with a mask." Angel na wengineo in media, someone please do a public info campaign on this...
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/16/2019 Posts: 313
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kmucheke wrote:kmucheke wrote:Ramaphosa warns 'hyenas' stealing Covid-19 fundsQuote:Corruption during a national disaster is a particularly heinous type of crime, and perpetrators are going to be dealt with decisively and harshly.
It is difficult to understand the utter lack of conscience that leads a businessperson who has heeded the call to provide lifesaving supplies during a devastating pandemic to inflate the price of a surgical mask by as much as 900%.
Nor can one explain why a councillor would stockpile emergency food parcels meant for the poor for their own family, or why another councillor would divert water tankers en route to a needy community to their own home.
It is impossible to discern what drives an entire family whose member stole funds meant for unemployed workers to go on a spending spree, buying cars, paying for renovations and beauty treatments, and even tombstones.
Attempting to profit from a disaster that is claiming the lives of our people every day is the action of scavengers. It is like a pack of hyenas circling wounded prey. I believe corruption may also be fuelling the increase in the number of cases. Even when are faced with an existential threat greedy individuals can't keep away. In fact Covid-19 pandemic has granted them a golden opportunity to pilfer to the fullest.
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/21/2009 Posts: 602
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kmucheke wrote:kmucheke wrote:Ramaphosa warns 'hyenas' stealing Covid-19 fundsQuote:Corruption during a national disaster is a particularly heinous type of crime, and perpetrators are going to be dealt with decisively and harshly.
It is difficult to understand the utter lack of conscience that leads a businessperson who has heeded the call to provide lifesaving supplies during a devastating pandemic to inflate the price of a surgical mask by as much as 900%.
Nor can one explain why a councillor would stockpile emergency food parcels meant for the poor for their own family, or why another councillor would divert water tankers en route to a needy community to their own home.
It is impossible to discern what drives an entire family whose member stole funds meant for unemployed workers to go on a spending spree, buying cars, paying for renovations and beauty treatments, and even tombstones.
Attempting to profit from a disaster that is claiming the lives of our people every day is the action of scavengers. It is like a pack of hyenas circling wounded prey. I believe corruption may also be fuelling the increase in the number of cases. Even when are faced with an existential threat greedy individuals can't keep away. In fact Covid-19 pandemic has granted them a golden opportunity to pilfer to the fullest. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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Shak wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Shak wrote:Shak wrote:newfarer wrote:[quote=sqft]The principal of Chania High school has collapsed and died after developing breathing problems. He was chairing a meeting. https://www.nation.co.ke...apses-and-dies--1905412[/quote] I have counted like 7 news items of people dropping dead while going on with their daily chores this month All of them middle aged men QUOTE FROM THE DAILY NATION: "In the last 48 hours, 28 lives have been lost to Covid-19, even as the positive cases rose to 22, 053.
“This disease has left a trail of pain and anguish as families mourn their loved ones,” Health Cabinet Secretary Mutahi Kagwe said last month. An analysis of the deaths shows that it is only female teenagers aged between 10-19 who have not reported any deaths, even as men over 60 years continue to form the bulk of the Covid-19 fatalities at 33 per cent.
The data shows that men aged between 50-60 years were the second high-risk group at 15 per cent, followed by those in the 40-50 age bracket at 14 per cent.
Despite the women in these three groups being at greater risk, they still formed a lower percentage of the fatalities at nine per cent for those over 60 years, six per cent for those between 50-59, and five per cent for those between 40-49 years."Why the stark disparity between sexes? Men have more underlying sicknesses that they don't treat as required. Plus they are also poor and careless in following Covid guidelines aka protocols. Plus slow in seeking treatment. Generally villages are full of widows than widowers! Plus most smokers are men and lung health is a factor of severity of disease. What I heard is to the contrary. Smoking is not a factor when it comes to servere symptoms of this infection. Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Medical proffesional say there is a link to the cold weather contrary to what Wazua experrts have been telling us https://nairobinews.nati...9-at-bay-kenyans-advisedTruth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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Let me leave this here *Copied and Shared......* Good morning great friends. I want to plead with all of us to spread the gospel of the reality of this pandemic-Covid. The last one or so week has been harrowing to the Ogola family and clan. In a span of 7 days we have 48 infectioms in the family including my 80 year old mum. She has been struggling in the icu for the last 5 days. My 61 year old brother Moses Osoro Ogola succumbed within 24 hrs of admissiom. Every one who surrounded my mother including my step mum, her son's daughter in laws, grandchildren, cousins and workers have all tested positive. As Kagwe repeatedly say "lets not treat this thing normally coz it will treat as abnormally" My worry now is ,? Is the whole family and village being wiped out. Put us in your prayers. *Gordon Ogola Advocate Nakuru* Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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Maybe these Kenya experts need to widen their scope of data. In Texas USA, the average temperature since May has been ranging from 85F to 102F, that is 29c to 39c degrees daily. In terms of Covid 19 numbers the trend has been upward with 442,014 cases being reported since May 1. Nonetheless, I dont blame them even Fauci's team thought this and even mentioned that the sun might help to bring down the numbers....what happened, sun states California Texas Arizona and Florida opened early now they are grappling. California, Texas and Florida now have more numbers than NY. Sad Note. Tx numbers are now going down after the Gov ordered a mandatory mask/facial covering everywhere, closed bars and reduced the number of people in a building to 25% capacity for social distancing. This thing has no other option apart from cleaning and sanitizing, social distancing and facial covering. I was very encouraged by Qatar's numbers we should strive to that. I just came from a meeting where someone mentioned that we should treat masks like we treat our underwear.  Interesting times "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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to be fair... those guys see real patients... people here on Wazua dig through a lot of information. They also do lots of correlation. The worst thing you would do is take medical advice from an anonymous guy on the internet. The doctors see real patients - follow them. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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