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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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AlphDoti wrote:
Kiambu hospitals, roads, and schools were all built by the 1st president of Kenya. While other regions, including Wajir, left out... lucky to have one hospital, a school, a kilometre road, no water, no reliable electricity... Why do some people think those other regions do not need schools, hospitals, boreholes, power etc?
Have you ever been to githurai, mwihoko, juja farm etc which are all in kiambu? Where are those roads, hospitals, schools you are talking about? Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote: I am very proud of Kakamega, Kisii, Nairobi and Kajiado and any other county that voted against this bill. They were shocked when they saw people vote against what appeared to be in their interest.
I saw Malala (senator kakamega) on TV saying the only reason for voting against the bill is because nasa regions in coast will lose and they expect coast to support baba in 2022. So they never opposed due to principles or love of the coastals but rather 2022 politics. Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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So malala is lying to kenyans that kangata wants to take money from vihiga and take it to kirinyaga? Why didnt he say they are taking money from vihiga and taking it to nandi the biggest gainer? Kumbe these 41 vs 1 manenos are still there despite data showing its kaleos and luhyas who will benefit most from the new formula.  Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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That people still do not know that in current world order the way to develop is by exporting products and services and thus earn money (and not be given money for free) is very baffling. Makes you feel all this education was a waste if such basic principles are not obvious. Just give enough money to everyone in the street and see if anyone will report to work tomorrow. To some extent that's where were headed with this devolution model
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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Coast MPs accuse ODM of betrayal over revenue sharing vote https://www.the-star.co....r-revenue-sharing-vote/
Quote:Members of Parliament from the Coast Region have accused the Raila Odinga-led Orange Democratic Movement of betraying them over the revenue sharing formula.
The 10 lawmakers drawn from Coastal counties named the four Luo Nyanza senators terming them enemies of the Coastal region.
Led by ODM’s Owen Baya (Kilifi North), the Coast MPs said by Senators James Orengo (Siaya), Fred Outa (Kisumu), Moses Kajwang’ (Homabay) and Ochillo Ayacko (Migori) voting to deny the region resources is the highest form of betrayal.
“The debate and subsequent vote on the Majority Whip Irungu Kangata's amendments on the revenue sharing formula has exposed who our true friends are," Baya said.
The lawmaker said the vote exposed the ideological hypocrisy of their so called 'political bedfellows'.
“ODM senators from Luo Nyanza threw the Coast under the bus left us on the horns of despair," Baya said. Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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limanika wrote:That people still do not know that in current world order the way to develop is by exporting products and services and thus earn money (and not be given money for free) is very baffling. Makes you feel all this education was a waste if such basic principles are not obvious. Just give enough money to everyone in the street and see if anyone will report to work tomorrow. To some extent that's where were headed with this devolution model Do you understand public finance? This is about how the 14% 5% 30% of your money collected as taxes should be used. Wachana na exporting bla bla... ata Kenya ikiexport hewa how will the govt share out the 15% mandated by the constitution to counties? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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murchr wrote:limanika wrote:That people still do not know that in current world order the way to develop is by exporting products and services and thus earn money (and not be given money for free) is very baffling. Makes you feel all this education was a waste if such basic principles are not obvious. Just give enough money to everyone in the street and see if anyone will report to work tomorrow. To some extent that's where were headed with this devolution model Do you understand public finance? This is about how the 14% 5% 30% of your money collected as taxes should be used. Wachana na exporting bla bla... ata Kenya ikiexport hewa how will the govt share out the 15% mandated by the constitution to counties? Do you understand terms like GDP, how economy is measured and works etc? When national govt gives money to a county, and the county uses that money to buy guzzlers, take bench marking trips, etc, does that grow the economy and help govt generate new money to give the same county in the next financial year?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:That people still do not know that in current world order the way to develop is by exporting products and services and thus earn money (and not be given money for free) is very baffling. Makes you feel all this education was a waste if such basic principles are not obvious. Just give enough money to everyone in the street and see if anyone will report to work tomorrow. To some extent that's where were headed with this devolution model Do you understand public finance? This is about how the 14% 5% 30% of your money collected as taxes should be used. Wachana na exporting bla bla... ata Kenya ikiexport hewa how will the govt share out the 15% mandated by the constitution to counties? Do you understand terms like GDP, how economy is measured and works etc? When national govt gives money to a county, and the county uses that money to buy guzzlers, take bench marking trips, etc, does that grow the economy and help govt generate new money to give the same county in the next financial year? That's not the point of discussion here. Its about sharing the national cake. No matter how big the GDP is grown "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/21/2011 Posts: 2,032
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murchr wrote:limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:That people still do not know that in current world order the way to develop is by exporting products and services and thus earn money (and not be given money for free) is very baffling. Makes you feel all this education was a waste if such basic principles are not obvious. Just give enough money to everyone in the street and see if anyone will report to work tomorrow. To some extent that's where were headed with this devolution model Do you understand public finance? This is about how the 14% 5% 30% of your money collected as taxes should be used. Wachana na exporting bla bla... ata Kenya ikiexport hewa how will the govt share out the 15% mandated by the constitution to counties? Do you understand terms like GDP, how economy is measured and works etc? When national govt gives money to a county, and the county uses that money to buy guzzlers, take bench marking trips, etc, does that grow the economy and help govt generate new money to give the same county in the next financial year? That's not the point of discussion here. Its about sharing the national cake. No matter how big the GDP is grown It's all connected together my dear, like a jigsaw puzzle. You waste money here and it affects everything else. Does it strike you that govt debt has grown to upwards of 6 trillion from about 1.5T in 2013? Over same period govt has baked a cake worth close to 3trillion and given to counties? Does this tell you that the cake you are talking about was actually baked using borrowed money? Now, what do counties do with this cake? When counties mis-use this money, will the govt be able to generate new money to pay off the loan and give new money in the next financial year? Does that explain why govt is ever on borrowing spree - acquiring new loans to pay off old ones that get due? If you extrapolate this type of borrowing and waste over next 5-10 yrs, it is only by divine intervention if this country does not get into a financial crisis. But what if this 3 Trillion was used to give incentives, tax breaks, subsidize cost of power, etc so our industries get more competitive? Do you get the connection? What Senate should have asked themselves is, for instance, the 80billion that has been given to Turkana in the last 8 years, how much of it is of real impact to the economy and helping to generate new money to keep giving to Turkana? If they can get an equation out of this and use it to re-calibrate this devolution, then that's the only way we can avoid debt crisis
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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Donors have been complaining that they have pumped trillions of dollars to africa and yet they see no tangible results. Wanjiku is also getting tired that there is nothing to show for her cash contributions. Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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