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masukuma
#41 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2020 11:26:21 AM
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alma1 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
This bill is a typical case of "divide and conquer"! attempting to remind senators that they should vote for it because they will 'gain' at the expense of others while trumping on the spirit of the constitution that created the senate in the first place. Appealing to narrow primal interests to get numbers is an old tactic. This was the mindset of akina Moi and Kibaki... giving tokens to ethnic groups to rope them in. Remember akina Ojode turning down ministerial posts when akina Kibaki attempted to rope them in. I am very proud of Kakamega, Kisii, Nairobi and Kajiado and any other county that voted against this bill. They were shocked when they saw people vote against what appeared to be in their interest.

We should be striving at ending up in the 3rd picture not going back to the first! We have been there for a while and we all know it doesn't work


One day you will understand why Moses Kuria is soooo popular with some people.

I don't believe there's a more entitled tribe in Kenya.


I understand that... the problem is that these people don't see that IT DOESN'T HELP!! these places have been chopping the most since 1965 and we are still a f***ing 3rd world country. Let's open up the country and everyone else and see if we can unlock the potential in those places. We are very very short sighted!
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sqft
#42 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2020 11:53:49 AM
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The needs of kenyans in different parts of kenya are different. A nomadic camel herder huko wajir may need boreholes and veterinary services but may not want tarmac roads or sewer lines because he is always on the move. On the other hand a factory worker hapo embakasi pipeline needs piped water and sewer. Therefore giving the wajir guy extra funds for sewer and cabro to be like the "developed" embakasi guy doesnt make sense. Let every man be given his shilling to address his needs. You cant copy paste "development".
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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aemathenge
#43 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2020 11:58:51 AM
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sqft wrote:
The needs of kenyans in different parts of kenya are different.

A nomadic camel herder huko wajir may need boreholes and veterinary services but may not want tarmac roads or sewer lines because he is always on the move.

On the other hand a factory worker hapo embakasi pipeline needs piped water and sewer.

Therefore giving the wajir guy extra funds for sewer and cabro to be like the "developed" embakasi guy doesnt make sense.

Let every man be given his shilling to address his needs.

You cant copy paste "development".


Hear, hear.

Therein lies the foundation of Devolution.
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alma1
#44 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:06:12 PM
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sqft wrote:
The needs of kenyans in different parts of kenya are different. A nomadic camel herder huko wajir may need boreholes and veterinary services but may not want tarmac roads or sewer lines because he is always on the move. On the other hand a factory worker hapo embakasi pipeline needs piped water and sewer. Therefore giving the wajir guy extra funds for sewer and cabro to be like the "developed" embakasi guy doesnt make sense. Let every man be given his shilling to address his needs. You cant copy paste "development".


You see what I mean @masukuma

This fella with all his typing skills has decided that the people of Wajir only want their camels.

Who told you the people of Wajir don't want or need piped water? What is sooooo special about "your people" that God has advised you about?

The only way this country grows is if we ALL grow.

Other than tuborotis what is this in Central that is sooooo special that the people of Turkana should never get?

I call it a problem of being stuck on never visiting other regions in the world other than your gishagi in central and nairobi.

Sad.
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masukuma
#45 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2020 12:32:11 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
sqft wrote:
The needs of kenyans in different parts of kenya are different.

A nomadic camel herder huko wajir may need boreholes and veterinary services but may not want tarmac roads or sewer lines because he is always on the move.

On the other hand a factory worker hapo embakasi pipeline needs piped water and sewer.

Therefore giving the wajir guy extra funds for sewer and cabro to be like the "developed" embakasi guy doesnt make sense.

Let every man be given his shilling to address his needs.

You cant copy paste "development".


Hear, hear.

Therein lies the foundation of Devolution.

Indeed! The needs of kenyans in different parts of kenya are different... but people at the center DON'T GET TO TELL THE NOMADIC CAMEL HERDERS WHAT THEY NEED OR DESIRE! therein lies the spirit of devolution...
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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sqft
#46 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2020 1:28:06 PM
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Joined: 1/10/2015
Posts: 961
Location: Kenya
masukuma wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
sqft wrote:
The needs of kenyans in different parts of kenya are different.

A nomadic camel herder huko wajir may need boreholes and veterinary services but may not want tarmac roads or sewer lines because he is always on the move.

On the other hand a factory worker hapo embakasi pipeline needs piped water and sewer.

Therefore giving the wajir guy extra funds for sewer and cabro to be like the "developed" embakasi guy doesnt make sense.

Let every man be given his shilling to address his needs.

You cant copy paste "development".


Hear, hear.

Therein lies the foundation of Devolution.

Indeed! The needs of kenyans in different parts of kenya are different... but people at the center DON'T GET TO TELL THE NOMADIC CAMEL HERDERS WHAT THEY NEED OR DESIRE! therein lies the spirit of devolution...


But you are the same people at the CENTRE giving the nomadic guy more money because you have concluded that he is "undeveloped" eti because he has no cabro or sewer in the grazing fields and therefore you give more money to him so that he can "catch up" with the embakasi guy because to you at the CENTRE development means cabro and sewer..
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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sqft
#47 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:11:47 PM
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alma1 wrote:
sqft wrote:
The needs of kenyans in different parts of kenya are different. A nomadic camel herder huko wajir may need boreholes and veterinary services but may not want tarmac roads or sewer lines because he is always on the move. On the other hand a factory worker hapo embakasi pipeline needs piped water and sewer. Therefore giving the wajir guy extra funds for sewer and cabro to be like the "developed" embakasi guy doesnt make sense. Let every man be given his shilling to address his needs. You cant copy paste "development".


You see what I mean @masukuma

This fella with all his typing skills has decided that the people of Wajir only want their camels.

Who told you the people of Wajir don't want or need piped water? What is sooooo special about "your people" that God has advised you about?

The only way this country grows is if we ALL grow.

Other than tuborotis what is this in Central that is sooooo special that the people of Turkana should never get?

I call it a problem of being stuck on never visiting other regions in the world other than your gishagi in central and nairobi.

Sad.


Even in the US, the needs of the people of New York city are different from the needs of the ranchers in wyoming. Therefore trump does not pour extra cash huko wyoming eti so that wyomingians can also have subway trains like new yorkers. Rather wyomingians are given their share of cash just like everyone else wajisort kivyao.
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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sparkly
#48 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:31:09 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
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Location: Enk are Nyirobi
sqft wrote:
alma1 wrote:
sqft wrote:
The needs of kenyans in different parts of kenya are different. A nomadic camel herder huko wajir may need boreholes and veterinary services but may not want tarmac roads or sewer lines because he is always on the move. On the other hand a factory worker hapo embakasi pipeline needs piped water and sewer. Therefore giving the wajir guy extra funds for sewer and cabro to be like the "developed" embakasi guy doesnt make sense. Let every man be given his shilling to address his needs. You cant copy paste "development".


You see what I mean @masukuma

This fella with all his typing skills has decided that the people of Wajir only want their camels.

Who told you the people of Wajir don't want or need piped water? What is sooooo special about "your people" that God has advised you about?

The only way this country grows is if we ALL grow.

Other than tuborotis what is this in Central that is sooooo special that the people of Turkana should never get?

I call it a problem of being stuck on never visiting other regions in the world other than your gishagi in central and nairobi.

Sad.


Even in the US, the needs of the people of New York city are different from the needs of the ranchers in wyoming. Therefore trump does not pour extra cash huko wyoming eti so that wyomingians can also have subway trains like new yorkers.


You are the same people gushing over roads, schools, hospitals, bars and coffeehouses in DC. The people of Wajir deserve the same.
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AlphDoti
#49 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2020 4:12:15 PM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
Posts: 6,275
Location: Kenya
sparkly wrote:
sqft wrote:
alma1 wrote:
sqft wrote:
The needs of kenyans in different parts of kenya are different. A nomadic camel herder huko wajir may need boreholes and veterinary services but may not want tarmac roads or sewer lines because he is always on the move. On the other hand a factory worker hapo embakasi pipeline needs piped water and sewer. Therefore giving the wajir guy extra funds for sewer and cabro to be like the "developed" embakasi guy doesnt make sense. Let every man be given his shilling to address his needs. You cant copy paste "development".


You see what I mean @masukuma

This fella with all his typing skills has decided that the people of Wajir only want their camels.

Who told you the people of Wajir don't want or need piped water? What is sooooo special about "your people" that God has advised you about?

The only way this country grows is if we ALL grow.

Other than tuborotis what is this in Central that is sooooo special that the people of Turkana should never get?

I call it a problem of being stuck on never visiting other regions in the world other than your gishagi in central and nairobi.

Sad.

Even in the US, the needs of the people of New York city are different from the needs of the ranchers in wyoming. Therefore trump does not pour extra cash huko wyoming eti so that wyomingians can also have subway trains like new yorkers.

You are the same people gushing over roads, schools, hospitals, bars and coffeehouses in DC. The people of Wajir deserve the same.

Kiambu hospitals, roads, and schools were all built by the 1st president of Kenya. While other regions, including Wajir, left out... lucky to have one hospital, a school, a kilometre road, no water, no reliable electricity... Why do some people think those other regions do not need schools, hospitals, boreholes, power etc?
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masukuma
#50 Posted : Wednesday, July 29, 2020 4:23:14 PM
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Posts: 13,823
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sqft wrote:
masukuma wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
sqft wrote:
The needs of kenyans in different parts of kenya are different.

A nomadic camel herder huko wajir may need boreholes and veterinary services but may not want tarmac roads or sewer lines because he is always on the move.

On the other hand a factory worker hapo embakasi pipeline needs piped water and sewer.

Therefore giving the wajir guy extra funds for sewer and cabro to be like the "developed" embakasi guy doesnt make sense.

Let every man be given his shilling to address his needs.

You cant copy paste "development".


Hear, hear.

Therein lies the foundation of Devolution.

Indeed! The needs of kenyans in different parts of kenya are different... but people at the center DON'T GET TO TELL THE NOMADIC CAMEL HERDERS WHAT THEY NEED OR DESIRE! therein lies the spirit of devolution...


But you are the same people at the CENTRE giving the nomadic guy more money because you have concluded that he is "undeveloped" eti because he has no cabro or sewer in the grazing fields and therefore you give more money to him so that he can "catch up" with the embakasi guy because to you at the CENTRE development means cabro and sewer..

No... wanapewa pesa wajipange sio. Ni watu wazima... what don’t you get? Hiyo formula yenu tumejaribu miaka karibu 40... imetufikisha wapi? Mumechoka na miaka 5... tulieni this is the KATIBA YES that you asked for.
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